How to destroy a country

stixx

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Dude, where in the world can you buy you a PR for R80K and R130K ?

I went to check this out, it is part of the requirements if you get employment in Panama and want PR. But the main thing is getting a job in Panama
 

Vrotappel

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We got the Zim 1.0 people in this 2008 thread. It is a bit tiring.

Things have gone horribly backwards in the last decade?
 

Jopie Fourie

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Dude, where in the world can you buy you a PR for R80K and R130K ?

This is the costs for PR in Panama for a single individual (R80k) and a family, two spouses, direct children and parents of both spouses on the same application (R130k).
 

Jopie Fourie

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I went to check this out, it is part of the requirements if you get employment in Panama and want PR. But the main thing is getting a job in Panama

Finding a job is not difficult, a lot of US companies settled in Panama City. Salary is the issue. Most people I know who went there the past 5 years almost all started their own businesses and are doing great. But again, Panama is a 3rd world country, although light years ahead of SA. Use it as a temporary base when things go down locally. Working towards a Panamanian passport is also an option. The whole of Europe will open to you.
 

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The ANC currently has no other option but to collapse the economy. It can no longer be fixed. Unfortunately for them, they also found that this is not a fast and easy task to do. Nonetheless, they are on the right path.

All I can say is that each and every person who do not want to live in poverty and oppression should ensure that that they have a second passport or at least permanent residency elsewhere so that they can flee the day when this is needed. It is not expensive, just be sure that you have around R80k if you are single or around R130k for a family of any size. This will at least buy you permanent residency when needed and you will get most of it back when the residency is issued.

R80k? where could you buy residence for that amount?

EDIT: already answered in previous posts.
 
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Jopie Fourie

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what are property prices and job oportunities like?

First off, in Panama City jobs is not an issue. Problem though is salaries. Life in Panama City is extremely expensive. But, as you move out to the smaller towns, it becomes much more affordable, but then jobs are becoming more scarce.

From my experience when I was there, in the smaller towns you can rent a 5-bedroom house on a massive property for anywhere from US$400-US$1,000 a month. For a family of 6, your monthly water and electricity works out at about US$70. Uncapped Internet about US$30. Groceries, meat and luxuries for the whole family for the whole month around US$800. Petrol is around US$0.87 a liter, so that is not an issue. School fees for 3 children in a private US-based school works out to around US$1,100 a month. So, for a family of 6 living a middle to upper class lifestyle, you can get away for around US$3,000 or less a month. There are a lot cheaper alternatives though. I have met a few families of 4 or 5 who comes by at less than US$2k a month.

In Panama City for the same lifestyle you will probably be looking at US$25k a month or more.
 

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Do you see nothing wrong with the current state of affairs?
I think he means that he heard "them" saying "we see nothing wrong with the current state of affairs, the white man decided on these rules and were judged unfairly. "
 

My_King

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Hey old people, 2019 phoned. 2019 says you were right about the ANC and that it should not be placed in charge.
 

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About some things, yes. Time will tell what the future holds but he is always doom and gloom all the time
You are spoiling it for people, Jopie Fourie Lew Lew just cancelled his Pornhub subscription after he saw the article
 
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TheChamp

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I think he means that he heard "them" saying "we see nothing wrong with the current state of affairs, the white man decided on these rules and were judged unfairly. "
Oh? I see, MyBb legendary stories.
 

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How to destroy a country

South Africa is on a path of destruction and is on its way to becoming an “unhappy country” like Zimbabwe and Venezuela.

This is the view of Efficient Group founder and chief economist Dawie Roodt, who was speaking at an event hosted by the Free Market Foundation.

Capitalism(Eutopia state) or Socialism or Communism or Nationalism(Fall back state) does not matter, MONEY is still you main medium of control, if you has no clue how to work with money, your path is doomed-Why ?

1-Not because I say so.
2-There is a hard-natural relationship between (Money is still your main control medium like it or not), Resources, and Population numbers and the Social-Intelligence required to handle all these effectively so the whole plot is benificial to all in the LONG-RUN, that will end well after your death as a decission maker, so forget about those quick fix parties.
3-Nature is a two way sword, and will hit you or your children or their children hard, if you do not play this game well.
4-You understand the difference between -Reasonable Profit-, -Channelling Service/Product just a medium-, -Abstract embeddenments to channel-, -Extortion-, administration costs....0.x% range versus ..XX%-Range these costs may look like small change to you because you has no clue about money but adds up like a cancer-, -Extreme Vat, Levies, Taxes.
5-You understand the difference between technical centralisation of major core equipment, and centralisation of management and control like call centres versus localised management and control without centralised call centres.
6-Boardrooms are stable filled with boardmembers that knows the field.
7-Because of natures way on your childrens future, it will hit you hard if you cannot and wil not work properly with money and resources.
8-Polution: Cities are by there very design build like chimneys full of people vertically per square foot, do your maths and wonder why you cant breathe properly.
9-In short if you run any country and has no clue, your followers are doomed, just naturally.
10-Two factors never present like now ever in the history of man, it expanded logarithmitacallyrelative quickly, and the effects poorly undestood and managed, it is just too much of a fairytale....
a)The digital era..AI....."4th industrial revolution"=No other revolution was like this ever in history, this revolution is abstract in millions of ways.
b)The level and extend of overpopulation, weather driven by political ideologies or not, it happened.
11-TALK is not WORK, talk is an addition to work. You can talk all you want, if your hands and feet is not moving, you going nowhere in future.
12-This is why money cannot be issued willy-nilly, it would have been nice, NATURE will get you over time, and nature includes the human minds. So you think you can be cleverly abstractly corrupt like never before and get away with it, no you cannot and Nature will not allow you in the long run .
 
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netcruiser

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I didn't even read it. Not interested in the opinion of some anonymous Staff Writer. Get serious MyBroadband!
 
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