How would you "update" the way the Taxi industry works?

Pho3nix

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As title.
No it isn't an assignment.

Was thinking about this while stuck in traffic on Bree street.
The entire process is manual and it's that way because I am assuming, tax free and very easy to find out if someone is skimming from the top.

Adding tech would add a overhead to both the drivers and industry.

Thoughts?
 

Sonic2k

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I have done work for companies who tried to do this, and they failed. There is no buy-in from the hoenderhok industry because as you mentioned, tax dodging is the order of the day, as well as skimming of profits.
 

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Assuming this isn't an assignment.

I don't think any update would work - or would be adopted.

I get the feeling the taxi operators are quite happy with the way the industry works.
 
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Impossible to change without buy-in from those who rely on taxis for transportation.
 

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I'd immediately remove PrDP and operator's certificate the minute any fine is unpaid after its court date, for a start - and then DQ the driver and owner from getting them again for the next 12 months.
Pass legislation to impound and crush vehicles that accumulate more than a certain number of fines.

Give that a few months, and then the number of taxis on the road will be so much fewer.
Then make audited financial statements a requirement for renewal of operator's certificate - with some kind of check with odometer vs age vs revenue - root out the fraud that way.
 

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@OP are you referring to metered taxi's or the Minibus Deathtrap type?
 

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I'd immediately remove PrDP and operator's certificate the minute any fine is unpaid after its court date, for a start - and then DQ the driver and owner from getting them again for the next 12 months.
Pass legislation to impound and crush vehicles that accumulate more than a certain number of fines.

Give that a few months, and then the number of taxis on the road will be so much fewer.
Then make audited financial statements a requirement for renewal of operator's certificate - with some kind of check with odometer vs age vs revenue - root out the fraud that way.

This could work if it wasn't for the rampant corruption in both the government and the police services.
 

Sonic2k

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I'd immediately remove PrDP and operator's certificate the minute any fine is unpaid after its court date, for a start - and then DQ the driver and owner from getting them again for the next 12 months.
Pass legislation to impound and crush vehicles that accumulate more than a certain number of fines.

Give that a few months, and then the number of taxis on the road will be so much fewer.
Then make audited financial statements a requirement for renewal of operator's certificate - with some kind of check with odometer vs age vs revenue - root out the fraud that way.

This will lead to protests and other action...
 

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This could work if it wasn't for the rampant corruption in both the government and the police services.

I'm counting on the ANC getting further and further up China's bum to the point that corrupt officials are shot.
 

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If gov forced taxi industry to add tech then taxi operators would strike and kill people.
 

Sonic2k

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Do any of you remember the taxi recapitialisation programme?
Do you remember how much trouble there was with that?
 

HunterGR

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They'll intentionally kill people in addition of negligently as they are currently.

I beg to differ....

Intentionally operating Un-roadworthy vehicles is not negligence, it's intentional to reap the profits.
 

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I'd immediately remove PrDP and operator's certificate the minute any fine is unpaid after its court date, for a start - and then DQ the driver and owner from getting them again for the next 12 months.
Pass legislation to impound and crush vehicles that accumulate more than a certain number of fines.

Give that a few months, and then the number of taxis on the road will be so much fewer.
Then make audited financial statements a requirement for renewal of operator's certificate - with some kind of check with odometer vs age vs revenue - root out the fraud that way.

Very logical, very implementable, very doomed. Well said though.
 

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Ultimately, we can only implement what we can enforce...and with that industry, we can't enforce anything. Consumer (or general?) education and cheaper, more widely-available public transport might be the only drivers that could force the taxi industry to evolve...even then, they'd prefer to burn the public transport.
 

Pho3nix

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I have done work for companies who tried to do this, and they failed. There is no buy-in from the hoenderhok industry because as you mentioned, tax dodging is the order of the day, as well as skimming of profits.
Exactly my thinking. Questions is did they go too far with the tech or not far enough?
Hmm...sounds like an assignment question
:p When you are stuck in Bree for 2 hours, to get 1km up the road. You think up some krap.
Assuming this isn't an assignment.

I don't think any update would work - or would be adopted.

I get the feeling the taxi operators are quite happy with the way the industry works.
Assuming you could get there buy in, what do you think would work with the same eco-system?
Impossible to change without buy-in from those who rely on taxis for transportation.
Assuming you could get there buy in, what do you think would work with the same eco-system?
@OP are you referring to metered taxi's or the Minibus Deathtrap type?

The latter. Uber already killed the former.
 

Pho3nix

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I'd immediately remove PrDP and operator's certificate the minute any fine is unpaid after its court date, for a start - and then DQ the driver and owner from getting them again for the next 12 months.
Pass legislation to impound and crush vehicles that accumulate more than a certain number of fines.

Give that a few months, and then the number of taxis on the road will be so much fewer.
Then make audited financial statements a requirement for renewal of operator's certificate - with some kind of check with odometer vs age vs revenue - root out the fraud that way.

Get your point on the first paragraph.
On the bottom one though, how would you expect the drivers to provide statements for all their trips? Many an owner require reciepts or petrol and a minimum amount of income from a driver depending on his route.

Typed out an entire solution but Uber model is basically what would work :p with adjustments. An attempt to put this into the mainstream in taxi's hasn't worked though.
 
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