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what exactly do you do when you "slap" a custom ROM on your android ?
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HTC cancels Desire HD Ice Cream Sandwich upgrade
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what exactly do you do when you "slap" a custom ROM on your android ?
Deep78
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Sigh! I am so sick of HTC **** ... they really are screwing up a very good product ... I guess its
Samsung S3 and I'm dropping the thought of getting another HTC phone, sales of the last phone
are doing bad because they suck at after sales support!!!
HTC FAIL!!!
Samsung S3 and I'm dropping the thought of getting another HTC phone, sales of the last phone
are doing bad because they suck at after sales support!!!
HTC FAIL!!!
HapticSimian
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Personally, I go to xda-developers and I start reading... a lot. Small things change from one handset to another, and I make very, very certain that I know what I'm doing.
Whilst I don't outright disagree with much you say, I believe you miss out on another distinction one must draw: how much of demanding upgrades is practically motivated, and how much of it is rooted in emotion. In other words, will a given phone be functionally worse off if it were not to receive an update to whatever the newest version at the time, or are many people just after eye candy and bragging rights?
I wouldn't mind OEMs committing to keeping a product updated for two years, but practically how much of a difference would that make? Percentage wise, how many of a given product is sold as soon as it comes to market, compared to during the following months? You're going to have a large group of disappointed people regardless. As such, I'm happy to spend the time & taking the small risk in sating my own needs (and I use the word loosely) to stay current.
Even if OEMs do have as little regard for fostering brand loyalty as you seem to think, that's but the wonder of capitalism. Companies will, by and large, exhibit whatever attitude towards their customers garners them the most money. It sucks, but it is what it is. None the less my past and current experience with HTC's hardware will likely see me supporting them still in future, but I'll look after my own software needs.
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Sigh! The search continues for the 'perfect' android phone - looks like I am going to have to seriously consider the stock Google phon.
BTW, does anyone know how many future versions a nexus will support - so for instance, will a Nexus S be upgradeable to Jelly Bean?
BTW, does anyone know how many future versions a nexus will support - so for instance, will a Nexus S be upgradeable to Jelly Bean?
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1. Odd as I find MIUI pretty stable, in fact I think current versions is more stable than Stock Android
2. can be fixed with an RUU, even then I have yet to hear anyone claim this a problem with hardware repair that got refused due to a custom ROM on a phone.
3. They normally would not even know what is on the latest versions or what they missing. Android's modular nature allows for applications to update without the need for an OS overall like other mobile OS's. One example of this is Google maps or even Gmail where iOS users need an entire OS upgrade Android users get the latest simply by updating the affected apps.
That said:
My HTC Desire HD is on MIUIv4 2.7.6 and already sport features that is only in JB.
Jelly bean keyboard https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.beansoft.bean_keyboard
Google Now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749045
Google Sound search http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742652
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1. Odd as I find MIUI pretty stable, in fact I think current versions is more stable than Stock Android
2. can be fixed with an RUU, even then I have yet to hear anyone claim this a problem with hardware repair that got refused due to a custom ROM on a phone.
3. They normally would not even know what is on the latest versions or what they missing. Android's modular nature allows for applications to update without the need for an OS overall like other mobile OS's. One example of this is Google maps or even Gmail where iOS users need an entire OS upgrade Android users get the latest simply by updating the affected apps.
That said:
My HTC Desire HD is on MIUIv4 2.7.6 and already sport features that is only in JB.
Jelly bean keyboard https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.beansoft.bean_keyboard
Google Now http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1749045
Google Sound search http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1742652
You sir must be feeding us false information... its not possible for PE to has a windspeed of 9m/s that is waaay too little
Im a big miui fan though, ran it for quite a while on my DHD.
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You sir must be feeding us false information... its not possible for PE to has a windspeed of 9m/s that is waaay too little
ROFL!! Nope its true
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Oh I went to htcdev.com, unlocked my bootloader, flashed my recovery ROM or whatever it's called and have had several ROMs on it, but I've never "slapped" anything on an android, I don't think so. I didn't even have to know what I was doing, I just needed the ability to read.
Anyway on a serious note, 90% of all the custom roms for the desire s look kitsch and tacky and have some sort of mishap. Nothing beats a stock HTC image.
Elimentals we know you can mod the **** out of any android phone, but you are spectacularly missing Vulk's point which still stands.
How is the camera functions?
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Unlike other ICS ROMs fully operational and this includes panoramic shoothing.
HapticSimian: Fair enough. Danny Sullivan made a similar point: just because you're running an old version of Android doesn't mean your mobile experience is completely crippled. But I do think there are lots of legitimate reasons to want to be on ICS or JB. The biggest one in my view would probably be the ability run Chrome - the difference between that and the stock GB browser is like night and day. Not to mention the improved UI, improved system apps across the board, etc.
And yes, this is just "capitalism in action". But if we're going to vote with our wallets, we might as well communicate our reasons to these companies so they at least know what they're doing wrong. (On that note, if any HTC representatives reading this forum: my first two Android phones were both HTCs. I have since switched to a Galaxy Nexus. The main reason I ditched HTC was because I gave up hope of ever receiving updates.)
Well, those system apps have a much better UI in Android 4.0+, so the picture is slightly more complicated than you suggest. But yes, this is one factor that helps to mitigate the damage caused by lack of updates.
Another point in Android's favour is that at least when Android phones do get updated, they get all the features. For example, all Android phones with 2.0+ can do turn-by-turn navigation, and all phones that get Jelly Bean will be able to use the new voice actions. Thankfully Google does not engage in Apple's scummy tactics of forced obsolescence and holding back features like Siri and navigation from older handsets that could easily handle them on a technical level.
However, my point has never been that iOS is better than Android. (If I believed that, I would use an iPhone instead of an Android phone.) But clearly Apple does do a much better job of supporting old handsets than any of the Android OEMs, and I would like to the Android OEMs improve in this area. If they could do a better job of pushing out updates, that would be good for consumers, good for developers, good for the Android ecosystem as a whole, and it would also be good for the OEMs own brand loyalty in the long run. If the OEMs drag their feet on this, then we as consumers can and should criticise them for it.
I'm glad that you've had good experiences with MIUI, and that you've found it to be a reliable ROM. But to be honest, that sort-of proves my point. If a bunch of hobbyist Chinese developers who aren't even getting paid for their services can make ICS run reliably on the Desire HD, then why the hell can't HTC's own developers do the same thing, and then push out OTA an update for all those people who don't have the technical knowledge to flash custom ROMs? It is outrageous and pathetic that these companies can't support their own hardware as well as amateurs who do it for free.
And yes, this is just "capitalism in action". But if we're going to vote with our wallets, we might as well communicate our reasons to these companies so they at least know what they're doing wrong. (On that note, if any HTC representatives reading this forum: my first two Android phones were both HTCs. I have since switched to a Galaxy Nexus. The main reason I ditched HTC was because I gave up hope of ever receiving updates.)
Well, those system apps have a much better UI in Android 4.0+, so the picture is slightly more complicated than you suggest. But yes, this is one factor that helps to mitigate the damage caused by lack of updates.
Another point in Android's favour is that at least when Android phones do get updated, they get all the features. For example, all Android phones with 2.0+ can do turn-by-turn navigation, and all phones that get Jelly Bean will be able to use the new voice actions. Thankfully Google does not engage in Apple's scummy tactics of forced obsolescence and holding back features like Siri and navigation from older handsets that could easily handle them on a technical level.
However, my point has never been that iOS is better than Android. (If I believed that, I would use an iPhone instead of an Android phone.) But clearly Apple does do a much better job of supporting old handsets than any of the Android OEMs, and I would like to the Android OEMs improve in this area. If they could do a better job of pushing out updates, that would be good for consumers, good for developers, good for the Android ecosystem as a whole, and it would also be good for the OEMs own brand loyalty in the long run. If the OEMs drag their feet on this, then we as consumers can and should criticise them for it.
I'm glad that you've had good experiences with MIUI, and that you've found it to be a reliable ROM. But to be honest, that sort-of proves my point. If a bunch of hobbyist Chinese developers who aren't even getting paid for their services can make ICS run reliably on the Desire HD, then why the hell can't HTC's own developers do the same thing, and then push out OTA an update for all those people who don't have the technical knowledge to flash custom ROMs? It is outrageous and pathetic that these companies can't support their own hardware as well as amateurs who do it for free.
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Ok cool! Can you give us a heads up, why not start a new thread and get us to improve out HTC Desire HD's to that same level. I would really appreciate such effort ( I am sure many will) as it seems that HTC are dropping us another....
Linky?
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I guess it has to do with the other problem that OEMs are more interested in selling you a new phone instead.
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Thanks, I hope to see this soon, but Elimentals peeked my interest in his custom rom solution.
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I haven't had the luxury; my rooting adventures up until now have all been prior to the unlocked bootloaders offered through htcdev. Hell, towards the end of the Desire's stay it involved screwing with the partition sizes on the ROM to get a decent iteration of Gingerbread running on it... Apologies for missing your attempt at humour... or sarcasm... or something.
That I can believe, which is why who happens to be developing for a given phone will in future also factor into my decision. Thus far I've been quite happy with the devs' work on the devices I've owned.
In any event I think it's sufficient to say that shorter support cycles bother some more than others, and that I understand where those who are bugged by it come from.
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I prefer HTC phones above any other manufacturer, and the long wait for official ICS on the current el cheapo is unlikely to make me get something else on my next upgrade.