Huawei plans to build its own chip plant

[Bradley Prior]

Huawei plans to build its own chip plant

Huawei Technologies Co. plans to build a chip plant in Shanghai without using American technology. [Bloomberg]

 

[saor]

Isn't that basically just a potato?

 

[etienne_marais]

They can call it Spytech.

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Huawei Slap Tjips

 

[Herr der Verboten]

They can call it Skynet.

ftfy

 

[Johnatan56]

Huawei aims to make 28nm chips for “Internet of things” devices by the end of 2021, and produce 20nm chips for 5G telecom equipment by late 2022, the report said.

This is near impossible unless they're stealing IP from others or buying another fab to get their IP.

 

[RVQ]

This is near impossible unless they're stealing IP from others or buying another fab to get their IP.

Licencing through ARM, A Japanese owned British Company?

But I won't be surprised if the did steal IP, pretty sure they crossed a few lines involving Cisco IP

 

[Mystic Twilight]

This is near impossible unless they're stealing IP from others or buying another fab to get their IP.

Chinese designed and made chips actually exists without the ip theft, they just very behind technologically compared to the latest and greatest like samsung and tsmc.

 

[Johnatan56]

Licencing through ARM, A Japanese owned British Company?

But I won't be surprised if the did steal IP, pretty sure they crossed a few lines involving Cisco IP

That's not fab IP.

Chinese designed and made chips actually exists without the ip theft, they just very behind technologically compared to the latest and greatest like samsung and tsmc.

Yeah, not sure about 28nm, but 20nm doesn't sound like licensable IP, so they'd have to make their own, unless that 20nm is going to be marketing speak and is just an improved 20nm.

 

[system32]

This is near impossible unless they're stealing IP from others or buying another fab to get their IP.

You seem to think this is China of the 1990's.

The target for Made in China is 2025, and they seem to be well on the way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Made_in_China_2025

China already have their own 7nm like processes:
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2020-10-...gh-in-7nm-like-process--UAB4lvKpag/index.html
And as Intel has shown, you can be competitive with 14nm - especially in the non-mobile market.

And there are plenty of open source architectures they can use:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RISC-V

China already have some of their own CPU's
Loongson - MIPS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loongson

x86-64
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zhaoxin

And also some joint ventures:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD–Chinese_joint_venture
https://www.businessinsider.com/arm-conflict-china-complicates-acquisition-prospects-2020-8?IR=T

Sure, none of the fabs and CPU's are as current as TSMC and Samsung, but by 2025, they should be a lot closer.