Huge fines for motorists who don't pay e-tolls

wingnut771

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Considering the cost of car license renewals, it may work out cheaper to not renew and chances are that you will get away with it for a very long time as traffic law enforcement is non existent and open to bribery for those willing to partake in corrupt practices.
The muppet's in power are so farking dumb that I can just shake my head in utter dismay at their dumbass ideas. :mad:
I see peoples photoshop skills improving.
 
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Local elections next year and this will be another political hot potato.
Have we NOT learnt that voting does not help in this GOD FORSAKEN COUNTRY?
NOT PAYING OUR TAXES IS THE ONLY WAY THEY WILL LEARN
They are bankrupt.
Does not have money to yet again bail out saa and Eksdom.
Hit them hard.
Hit them where it hurts the most IN THEIR POCKETS
 

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“From the enormous increases in the fines and the administrative fees payable, to numerous new obstacles which are to be put in the way of a motorist who wishes to prove his or her innocence; these draft regulations make it clear that money and not justice or road safety is the primary focus of the AARTO Act,” Dembovsky said.

Exactly that, fines should only be used to make the roads safer for everyone to use, instead these draft regulations are aimed at shoving SANRAL's etollie up everyone's arse.

This video sums up the current state of affairs:

 

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....and if you don't pay, the stalinist anc will pack you off to a Gulag re-education camp to toil on a communist central controlled farm!
 

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Seems like the trend is to criminalize everything (like SARS' idea to criminalize mistakes on your tax return and now this) to make that stick all the bigger. Very much a case of trying to squeeze the last bit out before everything implodes.
 

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Seems like the trend is to criminalize everything (like SARS' idea to criminalize mistakes on your tax return and now this) to make that stick all the bigger. Very much a case of trying to squeeze the last bit out before everything implodes.
If you a crimbo you think everyone else is the same..

What they gonna do if we still just don't pay?

They cannot even close the circle on one dumbo that stole our money in full public view, or efficiently process renewals, how are they going to process millions of Gauteng's motorists? The ANC must be tired and longing for a regime change.
 

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We already went through this crap with speeding fines. You can't withhold vehicle licences just cause you feel like punishing the oh so naughty subjects.
 

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What they gonna do if we still just don't pay?

Public floggings. Or the nearest facsimile. I suspect the intention of these legislative changes is to make it legally viable to prosecute and punish just a couple of people in the hope that it would scare the rest of us into compliance. I would also really like to hear what OUTA has to say, since I've been a subscriber to their 'defense umbrella' for years now. If these laws make it onto the books, they'll probably have to take it all the way to the constitutional court to get it undone.
 

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I'm still baffled why SANRAL didn't follow the Tshwane model...north of Lynnwood Road off-ramp, you can't get on or off the freeway unless you go through a gantry on the ramp. Same applies to the N3 to Durban and the N1 south of Joburg. N14 to Mpumalanga has the same system.
 

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I'm still baffled why SANRAL didn't follow the Tshwane model...north of Lynnwood Road off-ramp, you can't get on or off the freeway unless you go through a gantry on the ramp. Same applies to the N3 to Durban and the N1 south of Joburg. N14 to Mpumalanga has the same system.
Because the traffic on the N1 flows too freely? We need to slow things down?
 

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*shrugs* This has been coming ever since the system launched. Who's surprised? Did you really expect the ANC to just say "Whoops, gonna take down the system, sorry to y'all who actually paid but we're now writing off all that debt."? The only surprising thing is that it has taken this long. Let's hope they finally shut the loopholes and then we can move on with our lives. There are more important things to worry about in South Africa than South Africans who don't feel the need to pay for tolls on clearly signposted highways.
 

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So they haven't come up with the promised "solution" now they just sneak in an old outdated provision. Besides haven't we already covered this? They can't block transactions but only withhold disks. Here's to force people into non compliance and getting more fines, which will also not be paid.

Public floggings. Or the nearest facsimile. I suspect the intention of these legislative changes is to make it legally viable to prosecute and punish just a couple of people in the hope that it would scare the rest of us into compliance. I would also really like to hear what OUTA has to say, since I've been a subscriber to their 'defense umbrella' for years now. If these laws make it onto the books, they'll probably have to take it all the way to the constitutional court to get it undone.
That also sounds like a joke to me. With the money people have donated OUTA should be proactive and taking these matters to court and not waiting for them to land up there.
 
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