'Hundreds' of young trans people seeking help to return to original sex

[Mekon]

I often wake up feeling like a million bucks or a grumpy old git and sometimes a rock star but I de-transition within a few hours back to my normal state

 

[Pegasus]

I often wake up feeling like a million bucks or a grumpy old git and sometimes a rock star but I de-transition within a few hours back to my normal state

Soon if people refuse to call you a rock star or grumpy old git, they'll need to pay a fine, or get some training...

 

[Eniigma]

@buka001 you're dropping to the same level as jabu and rambo in german shooting thread with your comments here.

Give it up while you're ahead behind already.

 

[buka001]

"Refusing to refer to a person by their self-identified name and proper personal pronoun”. In other words, pronoun misuse may become actionable, though the Human Rights Tribunals and courts.

The same Tribunal that was established in 1977?

So did C-16 mandate this?

Xarog has helped out with sources that explicitly say that it does not.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

The same Tribunal that was established in 1977?

So did C-16 mandate this?

Xarog has helped out with sources that explicitly say that it does not.

The source I referred to explicitly doesn't say what Sollie just quoted?

 

[buka001]

@buka001 you're dropping to the same level as jabu and rambo in german shooting thread with your comments here.

Give it up while you're ahead behind already.

This thread was started on fake news.

In the quoted article from Sky News it says there is no data to support the claim that hundreds of people are de-transitioning.

It just became an echo chamber of insecurity and anxiety thereafter.

 

[Pegasus]

This thread was started on fake news.

In the quoted article from Sky News it says there is no data to support the claim that hundreds of people are de-transitioning.

It just became an echo chamber of insecurity and anxiety thereafter.

Are you feeling anxiety because you posted crap?

 

[buka001]

The source I referred to explicitly doesn't say what Sollie just quoted?

Your source says -

Since the changes brought forth by Bill C-16 do not mention pronouns, both Cossman and Brown cite a 2014 policy released by the Ontario Human Rights Commission (OHRC) for guidance.

So I said referring to your source, C-16 doesn't mention pronouns.

If they choose to address perceived discrimination through a Tribunal that has been around since 1977, it is using existing judicial infrastructure and despite the hysterics, no specific legislation was enacted.

 

[buka001]

Are you feeling anxiety because you posted crap?

You seem to be living in fear that a guy who wants to be a girl will somehow change you.

 

[Pegasus]

You seem to be living in fear that a guy who wants to be a girl will somehow change you.

Nope.
I've been to Thailand a few times, and I'm ok with it.

P.S. I'm sure you want to tidy your room now.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Your source says -

So I said referring to your source, C-16 doesn't mention pronouns.

If they choose to address perceived discrimination through a Tribunal that has been around since 1977, it is using existing judicial infrastructure and despite the hysterics, no specific legislation was enacted.

The source also says what Sollie quoted, and also:

The policy itself is not legally binding, Cossman says, but a human rights tribunal “does tend to follow the policy that’s articulated.”

The OHRC is a provincial body, however — whereas Bill C-16 is federal — but Brown says the Department of Justice has said the federal guidelines will mirror the OHRC policy.

Notice how I bolded it for you. This time I added underlines. Bill C-16 opens the door up for people to be taken to court for human rights violations because they didn't use the correct pronouns because of the way the enabling legislation allows administrative bodies to dictate how laws must be interpreted by the publication of policy documents, leading exactly to the kind of partisan nonsense and unfair political prosecution of individuals as seen by our own HRC.

 

[buka001]

The source also says what Sollie quoted, and also:


Notice how I bolded it for you. This time I added underlines. Bill C-16 opens the door up for people to be taken to court for human rights violations because they didn't use the correct pronouns because of the way the enabling legislation allows administrative bodies to dictate how laws must be interpreted by the publication of policy documents, leading exactly to the kind of partisan nonsense and unfair political prosecution of individuals as seen by our own HRC.

Does tend to, is not definitive, prescriptive legislative language.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

Does tend to, is not definitive, prescriptive legislative language.

And I should give a fsck about your strawman why?

 

[Tokolotshe]

The source I referred to explicitly doesn't say what Sollie just quoted?

The source I referred to is the source he gave but obviously did not read, an opinion. Also note that the author is not a legal expert, rather somebody on the administrative team of the UoT, busy with her masters.

OT: Wtf is this?

where she investigated the educational potential of female pleasure in feminist pornography.

 

[Gingerbeardman]

The source I referred to is the source he gave but obviously did not read, an opinion. Also note that the author is not a legal expert, rather somebody on the administrative team of the UoT, busy with her masters.

OT: Wtf is this?

Ya, but if he didn't construct straw men with which to libel those he opposes, then how else could @buka001 construct his trollposts?

 

[Pegasus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1182465900190011397

 

[rietrot]

Does tend to, is not definitive, prescriptive legislative language.

Lol dude. This thread has been a new low for you. Is everything okay at home or work? Maybe take a few days off.

 

[Temujin]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1182465900190011397

Cheering and applauding like its some kind of an achievement

 

[buka001]

Ya, but if he didn't construct straw men with which to libel those he opposes, then how else could @buka001 construct his trollposts?

Strawman?

Claim was people in Canada can go to Jail for misgendering.

Fact is no.

No, pronouns won't send you to jail | The McGill Daily

The misunderstood scope of Bill C-16

www.mcgilldaily.com

So despite everyones shrieking, the evidence is clear that the C-16 Bill does not have any means that can send you to jail for misgendering, contrary to JBP stating it was compelled speech.

According to Brenda Cossman, a professor of law at the University of Toronto, Peterson is “fundamentally mischaracterizing” Bill C-16 ... I don’t think there’s any legal expert that would say that [this] would meet the threshold for hate speech in Canada

Are Jordan Peterson's Claims About Bill C-16 Correct?

The U of T professor has made claims about going to prison for his beliefs and criminalizing free speech. Here's what the legislation says.

torontoist.com

Oh and to add, in 2 years no one. Not 1 single person has been prosecuted for misgendering. So a storm in a teacup as per usual.

 

[buka001]

Lol dude. This thread has been a new low for you. Is everything okay at home or work? Maybe take a few days off.

Really?

So because I decided to rattle the echo chamber here that was predicated on an opinion that was clarified in the Sky News article that there is no data to support the claim and I rebutted a claim that you can go to jail in Canada for misgendering, this is a new low?

Really? From a guy who denies the holocaust? Really?