'Hundreds' of young trans people seeking help to return to original sex

buka001

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Indeed, valid concerns are often hypothesis before they occur. If you can't demonstrate why the hypothesis is unreasonable, then we're done here because I've got everything I came for.


Nonsense.
That was Brenda Cossman, apologies.

You cannot also demonstrate that the factual characterisation by the law proffesor Cossman is also unreasonable.

Especially contrasting the language style used between both law proffesors.

Ifs versus Can't.
 

Gingerbeardman

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That was Brenda Cossman, apologies.

You cannot also demonstrate that the factual characterisation by the law proffesor Cossman is also unreasonable.
I didn't say it was unreasonable, I said that it did nothing to rebut the possibility Brown laid out.

Especially contrasting the language style used between both law proffesors.

Ifs versus Can't.
The Ifs have all been validated with practical examples given the nature of the authority of the HRC and the powers that it can impose upon people who refuse to acknowledge its authority to impose sanctions such as mandatory corrective education and the like, and the Can't doesn't actually forbid it.

We can see the same poisoning of our own HRC here now that the wokescolds have started treating it as ground zero in the fight against white privilege, and nothing you have offered to date gainsays this very realistic scenario from playing out in Canada.
 

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I didn't say it was unreasonable, I said that it did nothing to rebut the possibility Brown laid out.


The Ifs have all been validated with practical examples given the nature of the authority of the HRC and the powers that it can impose upon people who refuse to acknowledge its authority to impose sanctions such as mandatory corrective education and the like, and the Can't doesn't actually forbid it.

We can see the same poisoning of our own HRC here now that the wokescolds have started treating it as ground zero in the fight against white privilege, and nothing you have offered to date gainsays this very realistic scenario from playing out in Canada.
And the can'ts have so far been validated by zero court cases, fines or imprisonment for the matter.

Of course anything is possible. The probability thereof, seems to be quite low.

So as far as the apocalypse and hysterics that was laid out, when the bill came to prominence ... nothing.
 

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And the can'ts have so far been validated by zero court cases, fines or imprisonment for the matter.
Nonsense.

Of course anything is possible. The probability thereof, seems to be quite low.
And yet the concern is still valid, which is what you came in here to dispute in the first place. So thanks for admitting that your criticism of Peterson was premature.

So as far as the apocalypse and hysterics that was laid out, when the bill came to prominence ... nothing.
Took 25 years for the HRC to become an enemy of an open and non-racial democracy. You're arbitrarily cherry picking time frames with no reason given for the choice.

But keep trolling, this is about to get very funny...
 

buka001

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Nonsense.


And yet the concern is still valid, which is what you came in here to dispute in the first place. So thanks for admitting that your criticism of Peterson was premature.


Took 25 years for the HRC to become an enemy of an open and non-racial democracy. You're arbitrarily cherry picking time frames with no reason given for the choice.

But keep trolling, this is about to get very funny...

Nonsense? No court cases and fines and imprisonment is a fact. I know it goes against what you believe, but it is a fact.

Peterson was warning of a freedom of speech apocalypse. This has not happened and the bill does not do what he says it will do.

And the original claim that I rebutted was that Canada was imprisoning people for it.

Has not happened yet.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but until this goes to court and is tested in court and someone is prosecuted, it is but a probability and not an eventuality.
 

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Nonsense? No court cases and fines and imprisonment is a fact. I know it goes against what you believe, but it is a fact.
Sure, it may be a fact, but that fact validates nothing.

Peterson was warning of a freedom of speech apocalypse. This has not happened and the bill does not do what he says it will do.
And I've laid out in exactly the way Peterson's concerns are validated by using a local example of how this sort of situation goes pear shaped. You have yet to explain what is wrong with this comparison because each time you just stick your head in the sand and pretend that it can't exist.

And the original claim that I rebutted was that Canada was imprisoning people for it.
Actually, the original claim said that there were legal implications. You narrowing it down to jail is a straw man, as it turns out.

Has not happened yet.
Lindsay Shepard anyone? :ROFL:

Sorry to rain on your parade, but until this goes to court and is tested in court and someone is prosecuted, it is but a probability and not an eventuality.
Sorry to rain on your parade, but a probability is still a valid concern. So your efforts in this thread is worth zilch.
 

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Sure, it may be a fact, but that fact validates nothing.


And I've laid out in exactly the way Peterson's concerns are validated by using a local example of how this sort of situation goes pear shaped. You have yet to explain what is wrong with this comparison because each time you just stick your head in the sand and pretend that it can't exist.


Actually, the original claim said that there were legal implications. You narrowing it down to jail is a straw man, as it turns out.


Lindsay Shepard anyone? :ROFL:


Sorry to rain on your parade, but a probability is still a valid concern. So your efforts in this thread is worth zilch.

Well a fact remains a fact.

The South African HRC and its politically motivated and tainted narrative is not an example that merits any comparison to Canada. They have a far more mature political climate.

Shepherd is a civil matter. Nothing has been brought about under the C-16 bill. She is suing.

Yeah a concern that is a storm in a teacup.

Where is the thread about the end of the world?
 

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Well a fact remains a fact.
An irrelevant fact remains irrelevant.

The South African HRC and its politically motivated and tainted narrative is not an example that merits any comparison to Canada. They have a far more mature political climate.
:ROFL: "Justin Trudeau"

Where is the thread about the end of the world?
Who the hell knows where half of the delusions that go on in your head really come from.
 

buka001

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An irrelevant fact remains irrelevant.


:ROFL: "Justin Trudeau"


Who the hell knows where half of the delusions that go on in your head really come from.
If you are so worried about this probability despite its un-liklehood, how do you sleep at night, when its more probable that you could get hit by lightning.

Or worry about the end of the world?

All these hysterics and probabilities are just used to excuse discrimination. It boils down to this.
 

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If you are so worried about this probability despite its un-liklehood, how do you sleep at night, when its more probable that you could get hit by lightning.

Or worry about the end of the world?

All these hysterics and probabilities are just used to excuse discrimination. It boils down to this.
Since it seems I was too subtle before: Tell that to the beauticians that discriminated against Jonathan “Jessica” Yaniv. I'm sure it will soar like a lead balloon. Some lost their businesses, their livelihoods because they did not want to play with wax a pervert's junk. While we're on it, how many people did he get banned on social media (no question mark so you don't get confused, it's a rhetorical question)

Watch out bro, don't drown in the Kool Aid.
 

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Buka is defending mental illness. The only reason that Gender Dysphoria was removed as a mental illness was due to political pressure.
 

buka001

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Since it seems I was too subtle before: Tell that to the beauticians that discriminated against Jonathan “Jessica” Yaniv. I'm sure it will soar like a lead balloon. Some lost their businesses, their livelihoods because they did not want to play with wax a pervert's junk. While we're on it, how many people did he get banned on social media (no question mark so you don't get confused, it's a rhetorical question)

Watch out bro, don't drown in the Kool Aid.
Ironically for you I was very vocal against that idiot.

What he did is co-opt the legitimate concerns of trans people, to play out his sexual fantasies.

The law did not play any role in closing those business down. They were hit by one of the unfortunate ill effects of capitalism. The free market chose to believe his BS.
 

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If you are so worried about this probability despite its un-liklehood, how do you sleep at night, when its more probable that you could get hit by lightning.

Or worry about the end of the world?

All these hysterics and probabilities are just used to excuse discrimination. It boils down to this.
Loses the argument, switches to allegations of bigotry.:sleep:
 

buka001

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Loses the argument, switches to allegations of bigotry.
That is why I came in here in the first place. The article is literal fake news and even confirms that in its own article, then the echo chamber that justified bigotry because, oh look at the danger of misgendering trans people.

What danger?

Hypothetical argument based on a low probability?
 

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Oh NOES!!! This is the very living end!!! Burn down the country! They are genociding my gender pronouns!!! This is what the book of Revelations was all about!!! They calling errbody errbody up in here!!! END TIMES! MAGA!

...morons. :rolleyes:
When government forces people to accept lies it is a problem.
 

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When government forces people to accept lies it is a problem.

Really now... using the word "everybody" when referring to, uh, everybody is an issue of governmental deceit?

Honestly ask yourself this question please: who's the real snowflake here? I mean, you're not even slightly aware of how melodramatic this is?

Hoo shem.
 

Pegasus

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Really now... using the word "everybody" when referring to, uh, everybody is an issue of governmental deceit?

Honestly ask yourself this question please: who's the real snowflake here? I mean, you're not even slightly aware of how melodramatic this is?

Hoo shem.


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