Hunting : The right to hunt ?

[w1z4rd]

Another thing that I find valuable about hunting is when I hunt once a year it teaches me a lot more respect for what I am eating. When you have to track, hunt, shoot, carry and skin your own animal... You get a much more clearer picture of the circle of life and your place in it. Because I directly see this, I have a lot more appreciation for the food that is put on my plate.

 

[Nishano]

@ghoti

Totally respectful viewpoint, the nail on the head is, " the circle of life and your place in it "
This said, I'm still not hunting. But if you do eat meat you should hunt, as it put you face to face with process and puts you in a place face to face with what "taking a life" is like & the consequences thereof.

@CL-West
Bucket list, just for the sake of...hahaha....I think Manson has a similar outlook...

@marine1

Thanks for the passionate answer, I appreciate it & I though do understand how you feel, Im learning that if we do eat meat, we can not really argue with the hunters, as the animal flesh on supermarket shelves have been killed in allot more cowardly manner when compared to the hunt.
Im still not hunting though.

I've been trying to not get emotional about this subject, though, it does peeve me, when people say they don't want to know where their food comes from and they are better off ignorant...

From these discussions, I've learnt that, if you do eat meat , you cant really argue with a Hunter...this said, hunters variable, there are many types of hunters which of most the trophy hunter is most despised, though other types of hunters do so seemingly validity their practice, which is not always about sport which we have learnt through this discussion.

The moral entanglement here is with regards the right to take a life & if you do have the right to do so, then this sets the precedent for all life and if another one takes your life or your possession, you should not complain, be bitter or as the traditional "why me?" about the function, because you have set the precedent

This subject truly is deep and as small as it may seem, it affects the way we live our lives as a community on this planet.

 

[Superjakes]

Does swatting a mosquito count as taking a life? Are there different classes of taking lives then? How deep does this rabbit hole go?

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Does angling count as hunting?

 

[Beachless]

Another topic for you to think about is potential suffering for prey animals. I don't like trophy hunting at all and have never done so but let me ask this. In a world where animals are fenced in and have no escape when overcrowding occurs what happens when a predatory species numbers grow so large that they decimate the prey species and then suffer an agonising death through starvation? Is it fair to the prey? Is it right for the predators?
The sad truth is that humans have changed the world to such an extent that saying let nature take its course is in many cases no longer possible. This is a very complex topic and I think as per usual the best compromise lies somewhere in the middle of the whole debate.

 

[w1z4rd]

Does angling count as hunting?

Yes

 

[getafix33]

Am for hunting as a consume what you hunt, not trophy hunting. Canned lion shootings are for d!cks with ego problems. I also agree that for the sake of the animal, the hunter should use the best possible equipment to save any pain and suffering. Therefore I don't agree with bow hunting as the chance of killing the animal outright I feel is quite slim. The chance of maiming with this type of hunting is increased. My view at least. Please note I am not a hunter by a love meat/biltong

As for fishing, I fish estuaries and deep sea. Release what is too small and only keep quote if necessary.

 

[Rubberpigg]

I know on our farms we have to cull to keep populations down, so we cull once a year during hunting season. Ill go shoot one animal a year. Its not really a sport to me, its something I do to keep the farm healthy and to get enough biltong and venison to last for many months. Since I was brought up on a farm it was never a sporting thing to me, it was a practical thing.

I dont trophy hunt and I get no great joy in shooting an animal. If I want to have fun with a firearm I do clay pigeon shooting.

Another thing that I find valuable about hunting is when I hunt once a year it teaches me a lot more respect for what I am eating. When you have to track, hunt, shoot, carry and skin your own animal... You get a much more clearer picture of the circle of life and your place in it. Because I directly see this, I have a lot more appreciation for the food that is put on my plate.

I have no problem with hunting like that.
It's trophy hunting that I have a problem with.

 

[Pitbull]

Amen.
You have to be some sick twisted piece of **** to murder some animal for fun.
Maybe you were abused as a kid or something like that.
It cannot be a normal brain function to kill a defenseless animal just to try show your inbred friends how big your dick is.

I would live to let you pics of crap run around in the bush scared for your life and have me chase you with semi auto rifles or huge bolt actions ones.

Maybe then you wouldn't feel like such a big boy?

****ing makes me mad. I would hate to see someone shoot an animal in front of me........may be the last thing that person does.

LOL i wish you will be around me talking smack like this. Go eat your veggies ffs, let us men eat our meat...

 

[bot]

marine1 is the forums resident chihuahua. He yaps all day long, but they are just words. He thinks he is a big man behind a keyboard. He is too scared to go face to face with a hunter.

 

[TheTwo]

marine1 is the forums resident chihuahua. He yaps all day long, but they are just words. He thinks he is a big man behind a keyboard. He is too scared to go face to face with a hunter.

Why would he go face to face with a hunter? Is he being hunted?

 

[AstroTurf]

so called sport.
not an Anti hunting thread, .

 

[spiderz]

My thoughts have evolved towards Ethical Moral behavior and how it effects our society, it is a vast and multi layered subject and better left for another thread,

We humans have no Ethical Morals. We kill each other for something as small as a phone or a few $$$. We wipe out whole ecosystem so we can build houses and roads. We pollute everything with oil so we can drive to work instead of walk. (Yeah, I like trees more than most people... )

Hunting is good for conservation. It can be a bonding experience. It's fun to get out of the concrete prisons we call cities and just be in the free open air.

There is also nothing like the thrill of the hunt. The trek out into the bush, all the preparation before the hunt, the stalk of your prey, the excitement of seeing lots of animals running in their natural habitat, selecting the animal you are going to shoot thru the scope of your rifle, waiting for the animal to turn it's head for that perfect shot, calming your breathing, breath in, 1/2 out, pull the trigger softly, seeing your prey fall, going in close to confirm the kill, the congratulations of your mates on a good shot, the drinks afterwards, and oh, the stories of a epic hunt, the likes of which our fore fathers has never seen.

I must say I love the bow hunters art of stalking. They must get really close to get off a good clean kill shot.

That all being said, hunting can also be a sport.
There is different types of hunting that requires a different skill set.
*Bow hunting
*Rifle hunting - small game, big game, dangerous game, trophy hunting - bush veld hunting, long range Karroo hunting
*Bird hunting with shotguns of small caliber rifles
*Spear fishing
We have hunting associations that meet a few times a month at Rifle ranges across the country to hone the hunters skill with his weapon of choice. Practicing the different shooting stances, estimating of distance,, the art of breathing so you can shoot better, what you can do to your rifle to get it more accurate.

There is a lot of skills a hunter needs to master in-order to hunt successfully.
meh ... enough ranting

 

[spiderz]

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/wonders how owl would taste ... :twisted:

 

[AstroTurf]

/wonders how owl would taste ... :twisted:

They taste a lot like chicken although a bit tougher, you have to cook them longer.
Obviously a good spicy mango salsa goes well with anything. (I like to eat it right out of the jar).

Hooter's hot wing sauce is dandy also.

They make an excellent appetizer for clubbed baby seal roast.

You should serve endangered species with Schmidt beer.

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[spiderz]

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To be honest, I'd rather eat rat before I'll shoot an owl...

 

[AstroTurf]

Yea well, Unless I am on an episode of naked and afraid....

Speaking of rats, I was basically homeless (living in a shack) and jobless in a strange part of the country many years ago.

I ended up catching grey pigeons (sky rats) using a contraption I made out of a box and sticks. Not too bad actually as long as you have a little salt...

 

[Pitbull]

Yea well, Unless I am on an episode of naked and afraid....

Speaking of rats, I was basically homeless (living in a shack) and jobless in a strange part of the country many years ago.

I ended up catching grey pigeons (sky rats) using a contraption I made out of a box and sticks. Not too bad actually as long as you have a little salt...

Fark me...

Seems like you sucessful now. Ever contemplated writing a book? I would like to read it based on just the one line above

 

[k-4]

All ill say is serial killers first start by hurting animals. (killing included) then became murderers.

No wonder our murder rate is so high. We have too many poachers in this country.

 

[maumau]

Pouches

Sorry to laugh k-4, it's poachers.