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Hunting : The right to hunt ?
Pouches
Sorry to laugh k-4, it's poachers.
Predictive text still has a long way to go...
But now that you mention it, we really do have too many pouches, can't get enough pockets in jeans these days.
chromedome
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Hmmm, so I'm a hunter.Love fishing even if I catch nothing.
Whiskers81
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I am always truly amazed how the anti hunter is always the first to resort to name calling, accusations and wanting to murder people.
I often find that most people fail to understand or even try to understand other peoples view points or way of life. This thread has illustrated that once again.
I am a hunter and proud of it as well. I will also not apologise for hunting.
I only shoot animals that I can eat and I always attempt to do it in such away that the intended animal doesn't suffer or as little as possible. I also attempt to put the intended animal in as little stress as possible.
I am not a trophy hunter, I do not support canned hunting.
I often find that most people fail to understand or even try to understand other peoples view points or way of life. This thread has illustrated that once again.
I am a hunter and proud of it as well. I will also not apologise for hunting.
I only shoot animals that I can eat and I always attempt to do it in such away that the intended animal doesn't suffer or as little as possible. I also attempt to put the intended animal in as little stress as possible.
I am not a trophy hunter, I do not support canned hunting.
spiderz
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Lots of fun to shoot apples on a shooting range
Unfortunately not much left to eat afterwards
bokdrol
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I am a nature lover and so I have thought long and hard about this issue over the years. I would not be able to hunt, but I do believe there is a place for ethical hunting.
I have no problem with hunting for the pot
All the ethical hunters I have ever met are fanatical about nature conservation
In this harsh overpopulated world, I believe that various animal species may not survive if they have no monetary value to them. This is where ethical hunting (yes, even trophy hunting) can bring in large amounts of money so that the human population surrounding conservation areas area would have incentive to conserve. It is a pragmatic view.
I don't support canned hunting as I believe it is not ethical
I have no problem with hunting for the pot
All the ethical hunters I have ever met are fanatical about nature conservation
In this harsh overpopulated world, I believe that various animal species may not survive if they have no monetary value to them. This is where ethical hunting (yes, even trophy hunting) can bring in large amounts of money so that the human population surrounding conservation areas area would have incentive to conserve. It is a pragmatic view.
I don't support canned hunting as I believe it is not ethical
spiderz
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One shot.
If you can't kill with one shot, go back to the range and practice.
You need to know what you and your rife are capable of in a controlled environment (range) before going to the bush.
The higher skill level is shooting head shots at 300m+ with very little time to aim.
(note: I hunt in the kalahari, karoo. So it's long open plains hunting. It's completely different from the bush veld hunting here you can't see more than 50m)
@spiderz - Thanks for point blank info... one shot one kill... and yes, one can always hone ones skill on paper targets.
300m headshots sounds pretty pro...
I like the attitude, " If you can't kill with one shot"
( Question : with regards to bow hunting, is it a similar kill ratio ?)
@bokdrol - sincere view point, thanks for sharing. When it comes to reliance conservation, its such a grey area in discussion, it def has its merits though, I'm not for it.
Note on reliance conservation :
I recently visited an elephant sanctuary and learnt about current culling methodologies, pretty interesting :
Once a heard is large and successful enough, they cover large areas and do (perceived) damage to the habitat. Once this is noted, the herd is culled, the entire blood line is eliminated.
Over a period of time, this leaves weaker blood lines, generations of reduced sized ellies, with tinier tasks & more so docile than their ancestors.
In my opinion, reliance conservation is creating a devolution , merely only for our amusement.
We should let natural selection take its place and let extinction occur.
Thanks for the feedback...
300m headshots sounds pretty pro...
I like the attitude, " If you can't kill with one shot"
( Question : with regards to bow hunting, is it a similar kill ratio ?)
@bokdrol - sincere view point, thanks for sharing. When it comes to reliance conservation, its such a grey area in discussion, it def has its merits though, I'm not for it.
Note on reliance conservation :
I recently visited an elephant sanctuary and learnt about current culling methodologies, pretty interesting :
Once a heard is large and successful enough, they cover large areas and do (perceived) damage to the habitat. Once this is noted, the herd is culled, the entire blood line is eliminated.
Over a period of time, this leaves weaker blood lines, generations of reduced sized ellies, with tinier tasks & more so docile than their ancestors.
In my opinion, reliance conservation is creating a devolution , merely only for our amusement.
We should let natural selection take its place and let extinction occur.
Thanks for the feedback...
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spiderz
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The skill with bow hunting is getting close to the target. They hunt at 10-40m.
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Grew up in a family where my dad was a Whaler and an Uncle a big game hunter in East Africa just after WW2.
Have reams of photos from the Whaling boats, and various game animals that were shot for the pot, skins and trophy heads.
Still got Sperm whale teeth that my dad skrimshawed into penguins while Whaling "down South".
When my Aunt was still alive i remember her house had countless heads of everything from buck to Cape Buffalo and a number of skins also from buck, lion and leopard, but theirs was a different generation.
I must admit it never really took with me in any big way either hunting or fishing, although i dont mind a bit of fishing from time to time if the opportunity arises but only for personal consumption.
At the end of the day while i dont quite agree with game hunting, if its necessary culling for personal consumption and not sport then i can see the value of it.
What i do find distastefull however is the culture of gloating over hunting animals, the neccessity some people have to show off the spoils as if its some sort of rite of passage and anyody who doesnt is a wuss.
Have reams of photos from the Whaling boats, and various game animals that were shot for the pot, skins and trophy heads.
Still got Sperm whale teeth that my dad skrimshawed into penguins while Whaling "down South".
When my Aunt was still alive i remember her house had countless heads of everything from buck to Cape Buffalo and a number of skins also from buck, lion and leopard, but theirs was a different generation.
I must admit it never really took with me in any big way either hunting or fishing, although i dont mind a bit of fishing from time to time if the opportunity arises but only for personal consumption.
At the end of the day while i dont quite agree with game hunting, if its necessary culling for personal consumption and not sport then i can see the value of it.
What i do find distastefull however is the culture of gloating over hunting animals, the neccessity some people have to show off the spoils as if its some sort of rite of passage and anyody who doesnt is a wuss.
@Nanfeishen - thanks for the feedback, I like your story, it demonstrates that huntings isn't necessarily a cultural tradition that is passed down from generation to generation.
@FCLoretz - I disagree with your view on this thread, every contributor to this thread has assisted me in respecting the hunter more than I previously did. I'm finding that hunters are more intune with nature ,food processing and respect for life compared to your ignorant meat deli consumer.
The Sardine Run : A side note
I recently got back from the sardine run , ( or lack of )
I watched local fisherman spending hours on the shores before returning with their prizes, in a fair hunt.
I got to speak with local industry boaters with regards to "the run": and their techniques of netting tons upon tons of sardines is mind boggling. There lies no need for storage of the sardines as they are sold immediately... When I first arrived a few weeks ago, crates of sardines were selling for @ R300 per crate...the stock flies...
The recent sardine runs have been dwindling in numbers, it affects the entire eco system as a result. Im unsure that its the over fishing or climate that contributes to it.
just a side note observation
@FCLoretz - I disagree with your view on this thread, every contributor to this thread has assisted me in respecting the hunter more than I previously did. I'm finding that hunters are more intune with nature ,food processing and respect for life compared to your ignorant meat deli consumer.
The Sardine Run : A side note
I recently got back from the sardine run , ( or lack of )
I watched local fisherman spending hours on the shores before returning with their prizes, in a fair hunt.
I got to speak with local industry boaters with regards to "the run": and their techniques of netting tons upon tons of sardines is mind boggling. There lies no need for storage of the sardines as they are sold immediately... When I first arrived a few weeks ago, crates of sardines were selling for @ R300 per crate...the stock flies...
The recent sardine runs have been dwindling in numbers, it affects the entire eco system as a result. Im unsure that its the over fishing or climate that contributes to it.
just a side note observation
spiderz
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Yeah, unfortunatly nobody in fishing is re-stocking like is done in the game/hunting industry.