Husband must pay wife R2m in divorce settlement then R88 000 a month maintenance

JohnStarr

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Divorce is not about how little you can pay someone. What is a large amount to you is not necessarily a large amount to someone else.
Well, no lies. I was just curious what it would involve.
 

TelkomUseless

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Some questions:

1) Do you pay maintenance if she cheated on you leading to divorce?
2) Do you continue paying only until she remarries or dies?
Im no attorney.. but cheating doesn't factor into the equation (like in certain states in USA). I have asked the same for my attorney.
 

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rh1

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You've been spewing so much nonsense in this thread. Divorce is not about how little you can pay someone. Aka how much do they need to survive. It's about maintaining the wife's standard of living inasmuch as reasonably possible.

Whether or not she will be better off than most South Africans is irrelevant. What is 'reasonable' is based on her husband's income and asset value.

I feel bad for any woman who has to divorce you in the future. I guess you'll be one of those 'drag it out for 2+ years' types.



Divorce is not about how little you can pay someone. What is a large amount to you is not necessarily a large amount to someone else.



It blows my mind how many people have this messed up idea about what divorce is about. The minimum amount she and her kids could live on is irrelevant. How much money you could personally afford to pay an ex-wife per month is also irrelevant to this guy's divorce.

By your logic, a guy could be living a R250,000+ pm lifestyle in a R10+m house, get divorced after over 10 years of marriage and pay his ex-wife R20-30k pm in maintenance because she could technically stay alive with that.
So what did she do to deserve this? Some bedroom exercises?

It is similar concept to overtaxing people. Why get married, why try to improve or be succesful?
Like I said, consequences- already in USA, marriage rates are declining due to stupid laws and unequal burdens. Not sure why a man must continue to support an able bodied person. You probably also support socialism as this is the same thing.

Why incentivise divorce?
 

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Some questions:

1) Do you pay maintenance if she cheated on you leading to divorce?
Yep, unless it specifically precludes it in the contract. Since you're technically breaking the contract. Ultimately it's up to either by consent or Court order

2) Do you continue paying only until she remarries or dies?
Yep, at least in SA. Other countries men are less lucky and it is case dependent.

I love how the title just screams high maintenance without actually saying it.
It reminds me of that broker guy a decade or so ago that embezzled millions and then committed suicide. The wife also claimed a large maintenance per child (R50k per child iirc) as they have "become accustomed to the lifestyle". This as opposed to paying back the people he stole from.
 

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So what did she do to deserve this? Some bedroom exercises?

It is similar concept to overtaxing people. Why get married, why try to improve or be succesful?
Like I said, consequences- already in USA, marriage rates are declining due to stupid laws and unequal burdens. Not sure why a man must continue to support an able bodied person. You probably also support socialism as this is the same thing.

Why incentivise divorce?

What she did was adjust everything about her life to fit in with and support her husband. And you could argue that he could not have run his business/career as successfully as he did without the emotional support of his wife and having someone to take care of his kids when he was unavailable.

Let's say a woman is in her fifties or sixties when she gets divorced from a wealthy husband. Either you think she has the means to hit the labour market and make something of herself, or you don't care that she cannot.

Also, you'd be doing the opposite with incentives. You're basically saying that a wife should put up with any amount of misery in her marriage because she should not be entitled to maintaining a standard of living anywhere close to what she's used to, in the event of a divorce.
 

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Well, no lies. I was just curious what it would involve.
The breakdown is fairly straightforward. You separate all your living expenses into categories and list the expected expense items in each that would support a standard of living vaguely on par with how you've been living throughout the last few years.

Pets, internet, domestic, rental, groceries, holidays, culinary excursions, the use or purchase of a vehicle, medical aid, car insurance, gym, cellphone and so on. For anyone who lives a very comfortable life, those amounts will climb past R30k in no time.
 

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Which is why we need to investigate how he makes his money but @airborne is refusing to comply.
Let's be honest now... Carry your crown.. you are in fact the preeminent sleuth, you pipped me to the post the last time. That fact conveniently slipped the focus of a certain elderly gent that cannot be named but the fact remains I sit at the feet of giants
 

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What she did was adjust everything about her life to fit in with and support her husband. And you could argue that he could not have run his business/career as successfully as he did without the emotional support of his wife and having someone to take care of his kids when he was unavailable.

Let's say a woman is in her fifties or sixties when she gets divorced from a wealthy husband. Either you think she has the means to hit the labour market and make something of herself, or you don't care that she cannot.

Also, you'd be doing the opposite with incentives. You're basically saying that a wife should put up with any amount of misery in her marriage because she should not be entitled to maintaining a standard of living anywhere close to what she's used to, in the event of a divorce.

So are women not equal to men?

So to understand you, you believe that women cannot look after themselves and need men to support them for their whole life.

Cool, so you believe in patriarchy. Because, if you actually believed in equality, you would know whats wrong with what you are supporting.

Equality has been enshrined in our constitution, is it not time that law supports the constitution.
 

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Let's be honest now... Carry your crown.. you are in fact the preeminent sleuth, you pipped me to the post the last time. That fact conveniently slipped the focus of a certain elderly gent that cannot be named but the fact remains I sit at the feet of giants
Don't you and @abzob dare!

you know the words:

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semaphore

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So are women not equal to men?

So to understand you, you believe that women cannot look after themselves and need men to support them for their whole life.

Cool, so you believe in patriarchy. Because, if you actually believed in equality, you would know whats wrong with what you are supporting.

Equality has been enshrined in our constitution, is it not time that law supports the constitution.
If that’s what you got from his reply, you are totally clueless.
 

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Does the maintenance payment come off the income before tax?

Christ - paying that after tax.

R300k income per month
R120.5k pay tax.
R88k Maintenance.

Take home R91k.
Then pay children school fees and medical aid.


Husband living poorer than ex wife

Marriage seems dangerous
 

SauRoNZA

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The headline alone is enough to put one off marriage for life. As if it wasn't scary enough as is.

It’s called a contract.

What kind of banking executive idiot doesn’t have a proper one in place, I’d steer well clear of them.

In fairness one can’t say if this is unreasonable or not without seeing his whole income portfolio. It could very well be a drop in the ocean to him.
 

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I really like this part:
"The husband at first claimed his income was just under R100 000 per month, but his financial disclosures revealed a true net income of just under R7 million in the last financial year.
... In his own version, his average monthly cash income was at least R300 000, it was said."

This guy must be a rare genius, first thing he does is lies to the court only to immediately be exposed by his own financial records.
 
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