Hydrogen energy

FLHEM

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Goodday MyBB.

I think this is the most appropriate place to place this topic.

I am currently a student in gr12 and am working on a small task for marks, but am hoping to take the project further.

The project goes about a temporary solution to the water (and also energy) crisis in South Africa. I would like to ask if you would be kind enough to fill in this survey in order to gather information about what the public thinks.

As I said, this is only for marks, but I am hoping to take the project further. If there is anyone who is or who knows of someone familiar with the topic, I would like some opinions on the solution, whether it is feasible etc. If not, filling in the survey will be enough. Thanks.

Ps. I will be closing the survey by tomorrow.
 

ITCynic

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Noboody can fill in your survey without a link to the survey itself !
 

Lord Farquart

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Sorry for being negative about your survey and project, but why is day and month of birth of statistical value? Year should be sufficient. You are wasting questions.

As for your project, Yes, there are new ways of extracting hydrogen from water, but it is only lab results. Nothing on an industrial scale, which uses a lot of electricity. I assume this is a long-term thing you are looking at?

My biggest concern here is actually the delivery system/network to the generators in each house. You have thought this out?
 

FLHEM

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Sorry for being negative about your survey and project, but why is day and month of birth of statistical value? Year should be sufficient. You are wasting questions.

As for your project, Yes, there are new ways of extracting hydrogen from water, but it is only lab results. Nothing on an industrial scale, which uses a lot of electricity. I assume this is a long-term thing you are looking at?

My biggest concern here is actually the delivery system/network to the generators in each house. You have thought this out?
From what I could find, the system will be able to acheive an all round effiency of 30%, which is very low. The biggest reason for pursuing the ides is the pros like the fact that when there is excess renewable energy on the grid, instead of just turning of the blades, the energy can go into creating the hydrogen. It is very similar to hydrogen fueling stations used overseas.

As for the delivery system, I scratched out the idea of using a piping system. Takes to long, and its too dangerous. The best I could come up with is delivering it in trucks to fueling stations accross cities, where users can collect hydrogen about every 2 weeks.

There are other problems I've identified as well, but am doing research to find solutions.

As for the month and day, I am also not a fan of it. There is no use for it, but remember that this research project is for my year end marks, and month and day is therefore a requirement in the task.

Criticism is appreciated.
 

Lord Farquart

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Glad to see you gave it some consideration. What would the household consumption of Hydrogen be? Fine to truck it in, but if you can only fuel a couple of houses for a week with one truck, you are creating other problems. A delivery system should cater for the demand, which I don't know what it is.

Not criticism per se, but I do the same with my son. Always checking that he thought things out. :)
 

FLHEM

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Glad to see you gave it some consideration. What would the household consumption of Hydrogen be? Fine to truck it in, but if you can only fuel a couple of houses for a week with one truck, you are creating other problems. A delivery system should cater for the demand, which I don't know what it is.

Not criticism per se, but I do the same with my son. Always checking that he thought things out. :)
I'll get back to you. My research is at home and I won't be back for a while. At the top of my head I can remeber that an average home (30-40 kwh per day) will use about 0.5 square meters of hydrogen at 700bar in about one weeks time. Will get exact numbers when at home.
 

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I'll get back to you. My research is at home and I won't be back for a while. At the top of my head I can remeber that an average home (30-40 kwh per day) will use about 0.5 square meters of hydrogen at 700bar in about one weeks time. Will get exact numbers when at home.

How does one use an area worth of hydrogen?

Also, if you meant cubic meters, that's a s**tload of hydrogen. 500l container at 700bar = 350,000l of hydrogen (@atmospheric pressure) per week per home.
 
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