I am going to be dismissed, advice please.

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Celine

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I don't care about everything else, but the mere fact that you have only been working there for 4 months and have a break down due to the job and your wife being pregnant etc, tells me that you need to grow the hell up already. look for any excuse not to go to work and the second some doctor mentions the word depression, people are too quick to say oh yeah I have that, that's what I have been feeling. what a load of codswallop. how are you going to teach your child how to get through life if you are starting out the way you are.
 
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Merlin said:
What record is there of you having worked there? Have you got records of the emails, on YOUR side?

I also worked a few weeks into my new job without paperwork, which is a risk that I silently accepted.

I'm not an expert, but I think you're a bit farked, legally.

At any rate, even if you come right, I'd find somewhere else to go to and move on, briskly. It sounds like a disaster zone...
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Just leave and make sure you get a good reference letter and apologize for any wrongdoings you may have done (according to them), just don't admit to anything and start looking for another job.. also don't go the CCMA route as once you have been labelled with it no employer will touch you.. that's out of my experience so just my 2c
 
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Celine said:
I don't care about everything else, but the mere fact that you have only been working there for 4 months and have a break down due to the job and your wife being pregnant etc, tells me that you need to grow the hell up already. look for any excuse not to go to work and the second some doctor mentions the word depression, people are too quick to say oh yeah I have that, that's what I have been feeling. what a load of codswallop. how are you going to teach your child how to get through life if you are starting out the way you are.
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I sense much projection in this post, might be wrong but this smells like resentment in your personal life.
 
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Goliath said:
Just leave and make sure you get a good reference letter and apologize for any wrongdoings you may have done (according to them), just don't admit to anything and start looking for another job.. also don't go the CCMA route as once you have been labelled with it no employer will touch you.. that's out of my experience so just my 2c
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Really? I personally love my company and it would take a lot for me to approach the CCMA, but is there some sort of "record" of CCMA interactions.

He is not obliged to tell a new company that he took a previous one to the CCMA is he?
 
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Mike Hoxbig said:
If you have a dependent, would you stay at home for a week for the flu, just after starting a new job?
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point taken.

given the scenario I'd problably stick it out at the office with some Med Lemon until they send my @ss home.

having said that I think I changed my stance on this case - leaning more towards the employer's side.
 
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je$$ie_jame$ said:
point taken.

given the scenario I'd problably stick it out at the office with some Med Lemon until they send my @ss home.

having said that I think I changed my stance on this case - leaning more towards the employer's side.
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I have a wife and a 15 yr old son.
You think I haven't ever been through hard times?
I have never had **** like this happen to me because I don't act like a little bitch, to be quite honest.
Sorry if that offends ppl but I'm calling this as it is.
The op comes across as so innocent yet tells a totally different story.

Taking off work for depression when you have a family to look after?
Really?
 
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DrewChan said:
He is not obliged to tell a new company that he took a previous one to the CCMA is he?
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No, but then he will not want to use that employer as a reference on his CV ....

A good prospective employer will usually talk to past employers to find out why the person left, or if the person was pushed.
 
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Electric said:
Taking off work for depression when you have a family to look after?
Really?
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it varies from person to person.

i might be able to deal with a headache at work where other people would take a day off.

all depends on your own strength though.
 
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OrbitalDawn said:
Yeaaaaah, I'm gonna call bullschit on this. For the following reason:



I presume he went to his GP again. So this GP diagnosed him with depression AND prescribed treatment for it? Please.



Yeah, so if he signed a contract for 3 months and it's over then he's no longer bound by it, surely?

We don't know if he was on persisted probation. But how can it be a persistent probation contract if it's a 3 month employment contract? :erm:
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We don't even know if it had a probation clause, that's not the point. The point is that the last signed documented agreement will always persist past expiry unless conditions change e.g. A new agreement is signed, written notice from either party exercising an exit etc.

So he cant talk about how he should have been on a permanent contract so the protection of that applies to him, it doesn't. He can take action against the employer if he can prove they deliberately delayed it to allow for them to exercise a probation clause outside the 3 months.
 
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Electric said:
I have a wife and a 15 yr old son.
You think I haven't ever been through hard times?
I have never had **** like this happen to me because I don't act like a little bitch, to be quite honest.
Sorry if that offends ppl but I'm calling this as it is.
The op comes across as so innocent yet tells a totally different story.

Taking off work for depression when you have a family to look after?
Really?
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Great comment, well said - worth a beer or two.

My favourite line to people who are dismissed for whatever reason is ''I didnt fire you, you fired you, I merely facilitated the process''.
Guys with your attitude generally last longer as employees ..... in my day we called it vasbyte :D
 
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Karma.

You have no honor. You spied on confidential email, and don't seem to think it s a big deal.
 
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