I don't get it

Monad

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While I don't condone Sentech's strong-arm tactics against sentechsucks.co.za and mywirelesssucks.co.za I was blissfully unaware of the whole brouhaha until I read the article in the Sunday Times (This Sunday past).

I’ve been completely happy with the performance of my 128k connection – even though Sentech had me fuming over contractual issues which delayed delivery of my modem by more than six weeks. When it finally arrived it turned out to be a USB device and not the PCMCIA I ordered – for which I’m patiently waiting to this day.

After about 5 weeks the modem packed up (wouldn’t stay turned on for more than a minute), but I got that replaced on the same day – less than eight hours down-time!

After Sunday’s article I wondered whether I missed something, and started looking around for software that could create logs and graphs of network traffic. On Monday I installed a package called MRTG (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/) - which I finally got working by Wednesday. (I’m not stupid, just busy.)

I know that it’s early days yet, I’ve only been logging data for two days, but the results seem nowhere near as grim as the picture that’s painted in this, and other forums. Yes, the throughput drops during peak hours (9-5): yesterday (Thursday) it dropped below 30kbps on three separate occasions – each lasting less than half an hour. How often do you even peak at 30kbps using a 56k modem with *elkom?!
Further, when I correlate the graphs of these ‘dips’ with the traffic data from other devices on my network, it seems that at least some of the ‘dips’ were caused not by the Sentech IPWireless link but by a lack of data requests from my side.

Today looks much better than yesterday. The link has not yet (it is noon now), dropped below 60 kbps (once, for all of 15 minutes). From the graph, I would say that the link has been doing better than 100kbps for 8 of the last 12 hours.

OK, so I’ve been logging network throughput at 5 minute intervals for the past two days, but what about before that? Since installing the Sentech modem sometime in late March I’ve regularly been doing downloads of about 1GB per day. That’s better than 75% of capacity – not even counting overhead!

In conclusion I would like to say that, yes, Sentech’s sales- and technical support mostly sucks most of the time (and sometimes they surprise you); but in my experience this is typical of all such services everywhere. Generally it seems that the bigger the company, the worse the service. (My 11-month ordeal with our beloved communications monopoly is a whole other story.)

I’m not married to Sentech. This is not an add. If their service goes south, so will my opinion of them. I’ll also have the logs to prove it...

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Monad
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tower 22 – Kingsley Centre – 19%
standard antenna - on the coffee table most of the time
 

Kai

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Monad... there are a lot of people here that envy you (and Inevatable :) ) TREMENDOUSLY!

There do seem to be some peeps that don't have any problems, but there is also a LARGE amount (again... 2% my arse!) of people that have got REALLY bad connections...

This is a problem... (yes Sentech... it's a problem if even 1% of your customer base is unhappy you bunch of drooling idiots!) and it needs to be fixed...

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arf9999

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1GB a day!! J#sus! On Tuesday my estimated download time for a 700Mb file was 67 DAYS!

I think we've found the guy that's *abusing* the system [;)].

But seriously, this is why I haven't given up on MYWI yet, the technology is capable...the problem lies with the management.



MW128, Tower 50 (Northpark Plaza), 17% (with a Pringles can)
 

Kai

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yep! where's Kingsley Centre? I wanna move there! :)

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Luke7777

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Behind the Boerewors curtain, probably just down the road from Greedyflyza
 

gripen

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Yip. except that while its my closest tower I have NEVER ever picked it up. I always get Sunnyside or when thats belly-up I get Menlo but never 22 Kingsley. I thought it was a myth and with my 4KB/sec performance for many consecutive hours today, I think it may still be a myth. For some reason I just cant pick it up and Im 3km away.
 

arf9999

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Read ProAsm's web page, he explains that if the tilt he antennae to get better performance, sometimes the signal misses areas close to the tower...maybe that's the problem...but 3km isn't really <b>that</b> close..?

MW128, Tower 50 (Northpark Plaza), 17% (with a Pringles can)
 

Luke7777

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Picking up Sunnyside I can sort of understand, strong tower, etc, but getting Menlo in stead of Kingsley is just plain weird
 

passif

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Yeah, I agree with Kai - I for one am quite jealous of your throughput. You see, on my side, I have been graphing on a daily basis since the 18th June (that is, for every day I have a graph of all the throughput for that day - SmoothWall is wonderful), and it paints a different picture for me. I am currently looking at a 16kbits download, and that on a 256k connection.

I also compare their service with the service of my ISDN ISP (Imaginet), and it is worlds apart. The service and speeds I got out of the 128K ISDN connection is superior to the speeds on the 256k Sentech connection. Sad really. What I have also seen is that people that came from a dial-up (56k) bakcground, tends to be happy with the Sentech speeds, where-as those from an ISDN / ADSL background is unhappy. Just my impression.

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buffalobill

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Monad

I envy you. I did a 200Mb download from a local server over the last few days with total elapsed time of around 30 hours. That's a problem.

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gripen

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It is weird (and sad) unless when Sunnyside goes down, it takes Kingsley with it but I doubt that. Im pretty high up and there arent any buildings in the way.. whereas there are a bunch of buildings between me and Sunnyside. The only thing is that the Kingsley tower is physically low down and as such has a rather small footprint. Menlo is higher than where I am (slightly) so I can still pick it up except that its 4.5+km away and I get a max of 4% signal so its useless anyway.

I have ISDN 64k at my other home and it performs pretty well. You can always expect the full 8KB/sec speeds in both directions. But its rather useless and slow (read:due to being OFF) during the day which is why (or one of the reasons) I hate Telkom..

People from an ADSL background will be unhappy assuming they are paying more (on 512kbps) and getting not that much more (due to slow speeds). ADSL is fast and reliable when uncapped. MyWi is not reliable. Period. I think its unfair to say dialup people are happy.. once they have experienced good speed and good use of a 24-7 connection, they will (like most of us) also not be satisfied. If they just use MyWi for browsing and email then they won't even notice the speed problem and may as well just use dialup anyway. Remember that we all used dialup at some stage and typically not very long ago..
 

gripen

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I have heard that as well but then I have seen times where Sunnyside sucks and Menlo works fine. I have no proof to back it up but its still weird. I often see Menlo when Sunnyside goes down.
 

regardtv

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Towers in star topology instead of a broad mesh topology... can anyone say single point of failure ?

I'm not suggesting a complete mesh - just a slight redundancy - even over small pipes.

Oh well, one can dream....

mmm, wonder how mintek fits into the star...
 

kickass72za

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Redundency......what is that......as SENTECH TECH manager GOOGLES it on the net

While stealing our bandwidth!!!!!!!
 
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