I want to buy a 2nd hand BMW

BLIXEMPIE

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I see loads of 3-series BMW's from 2007 - 2009 coming in under R120000 with under 120000kms on the clock. It's been said many times on this forum to refrain from buying a 2nd hand BMW, but I need to know why. I want to hear feedback from people who DID buy a 2nd hand BMW. What are the service costs? What can go wrong with the car? How much do parts cost? How much is insurance?
 

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I suggest you register on the bmwfanatics.co.za forum. Awesome bunch of guys who will advise you.

I bought a 2003 model bmw 3 years ago, service costs are very reasonable actually. I paid 500 Rand for an oil service at SMG BMW a few months ago. That was parts and labour all inclusive at the agents themselves.

Previously i had a VW golf, parts pricing is very much the same to be honest. You'll never know what it feels like to drive a bmw until you take the chance, I'm glad i took the chance, i don't regret it for one little bit.
 

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My advise is have the car checked out. Owned a second hand BMW 2002 model picked it up with 128000Km on the clock traded it in last year with 218000Km for a Golf 7 GTI. The things I had to fix or replace was:
Expansion Tank
Water pump
V Belt Pulley
Battery ( original battery lasted me 9 years)
Electric window lifter ( goldwagen is much cheaper for this than BMW)
Normal service ( BMW oil service was 25 000KM I changed oil every 10 000Km)
Car never skipped a beat in the 6 years I owned.
IMO - the 6 cylinders runs better and minimal issues if well taken care of.
This was a 2002 320i 2.2 S6 steptronic
 

Die_Miek

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I bought my 2003 e46 318 in 2009,had 96000km.
Currently on 181 000km.
I do maintenance myself, but services at bmw are not expensive.
It gets expensive when you have to replace parts.
So my advise to you would be to take the car to bmw for servicing, but any other parts that must be replaced buy from midas/goldwagon etc and diy.
Example: set of brake pads are R2200 at bmw, you can get ATE/ferodo at midas for R500.
2shocks= R7000 @bmw, can get them at midas for R1000.
 

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Just makes sure you get one with the optional indicator courtesy package.
 

Gaz{M}

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Just makes sure you get one with the optional indicator courtesy package.

LOL!

Everybody knows that BMW's do not come with indicator wires in the factory wiring harness, so it is pointless fitting them.
 

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Posted this in the Merc vs BMW thread but relevant here too...

98 model BMW E46 328i MSport, manual.
270 000km

They may be cheap but by the time they're sold there's a lot of maintenance stuff due.
In 6 months I've had the subframe repaired, full break service (rotors and pads replaced), oil and filter change, engine and tranny mounts swapped, and replaced the aux fan after it failed.
Think I've finally caught up but damn I spent 60% of what I paid for the actual car. Drives like new for a fraction of the cost of a new car though.

Still, it's an awesome car to drive. Wonderful handling, heaps of power and I love the way it looks.

Oh and I still need to get the aircon re-gassed. I'm in New Zealand though so it's not as urgent here haha.
 

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I bought a 2004 E46 318i a few years back on 100k. Had endless problems. Had to replace 2 coilpacks. Some days, the central locking will not open the doors except driver. Then the electric windows does not work. And the one day, the car refused to start, had it towed to a BMW specialist in Pinetown, diagnosed a faulty fuel pump. This was replaced under Motorite maintenance plan and Voila, all the other problems disappeared. Car drove like a dream.

Needless to say, I got rid of it as quick as I can.
 

M3mPh1z

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End of the day, buying a 2nd hand car, especially a premium car, is always a gamble, I would just ensure you can afford to lose the gamble and you will good to go.
 

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I want to hear feedback from people who DID buy a 2nd hand BMW. What are the service costs? What can go wrong with the car? How much do parts cost? How much is insurance?

I had a 3 year old 2nd hand bmw 320d. Took it from 62000km to 143000km.
The service costs were between 3k and 6k out of motorplan.

Issues:
Replaced the water bottle. <1k
Temperature sensor fell off on the highway. Did not fix
Something went wrong with the cylinders. Rough idle and drive. Dont rem details. Was quoted >10k

All the above happened in a short space of time so i traded the car as is.

Insurance was about R800 in my mid twenties.
 
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I've had 3 BMW's -

E90 320i
E32 735iL (loved it to bits!)
E36 328i Convertible

They were all reasonable to service (myself), I just order parts from pelicanparts.com, and its a crapload cheaper than at the garage.
Buying a small OBDII scanner or computer to read the errors is a good idea.
If you can DIY a little, its no problem.

They all have little idiosyncrasies though - typical parts failures etc. Need to check the forums to see what.

E90/ E92 is fairly similar

Suggest look here - http://www.bimmershops.com/e90-3-series-common-problems
and here - http://www.bmwland.co.uk/forums/viewtopic.php?t=108166

If you have the runflat tyres - those are expensive. Quite a few people have replaced those with normal ones.
I've had problems with the A/C too on mine (whole unit bugged out, so had to have it replaced under warranty).

The radio in BMW's is usually quite *** too unless you get a better package. I replaced mine, but had to import a harness to do so.
I don't have any BMW's any more though, now I'm a Merc guy :)
 

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I see loads of 3-series BMW's from 2007 - 2009 coming in under R120000 with under 120000kms on the clock. It's been said many times on this forum to refrain from buying a 2nd hand BMW, but I need to know why. I want to hear feedback from people who DID buy a 2nd hand BMW. What are the service costs? What can go wrong with the car? How much do parts cost? How much is insurance?

All German cars (BMW, Audi and Merc) are very expensive to repair. Buying a German car beyond maintenance plan is Risk - Reward decision.

1. Take the VIN or Reg number, go to BMW dealer and ask for motorplan print out. It is a detailed print out of every service, repair, cost of parts, cost of labour until 100 000kms. It will tell you a lot about history of services, cost of replacing parts, additional repairs done and any other comments before the motorplan expired. You might also get accident history comments.

2. If the car had a good clean bill of health before motorplan expiry, I would take a chance and buy it. However, I would still not buy something like 335i or any high performance turbo charged BMW, Audi and Merc.

3. Cost of parts: Ask a BMW Dealership and get idea of cost of parts from the Motorplan printout.

4. Insurance is like any other car. I drive a 2010 BMW 335i Convertible and pay R1000pm. My 2010 Audi A3 1.4 TFSI cost me R500pm.

I've owned 2005 E90 325i, 2007 E92 335i (Coupe) and now 2010 E93 335i (Convertible). I would buy an E90 320, 323, 325, 330 if the past service history was good. I would never buy any turbo/supercharged high performance car beyond maintenance plan.
 
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All German cars (BMW, Audi and Merc) are very expensive to repair. Buying a German car beyond maintenance plan is Risk - Reward decision.

1. Take the VIN or Reg number, go to BMW dealer and ask for motorplan print out. It is a detailed print out of every service, repair, cost of parts, cost of labour until 100 000kms. It will tell you a lot about history of services, cost of replacing parts, additional repairs done and any other comments before the motorplan expired. You might also get accident history comments.

^This is very important. From the specs you gave I suppose you are looking at the E90? +- 120 000km you will most probably buy private or from a dealer. Do not trust the sellers under any circumstance. You dont want a problematic car, or something that has been accident damaged. Get the details from BMW directly.

In general, the E90 is very reliable. I suppose you are looking at the 320i in that price range? I would avoid that specific model as its quite lazy (specially the Auto) and it can be very thirsty.

Just do some research on the BMWfanatics forum on each model within the E90 range.

I did just that and bought a 2011 320d last year. Its the perfect balance between power/economy IMO. I recently drove from JHB to PE in with one tank of diesel.
 

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is it advisable to buy 2008 BMW 3 Series 335i Auto in R 229 950 ? what will be the maintenance and insurance /month ?
 

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is it advisable to buy 2008 BMW 3 Series 335i Auto in R 229 950 ? what will be the maintenance and insurance /month ?

your wallet is going to hurt and hurt hard. Dont get me wrong, its a great car but at that age and mileage something is bound to go wrong, and any little part hurts big time. Even if you are (or know) a good independent BMW mechanic the parts alone will hurt a lot.
 
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