I won't debate Zille's garden boys - Malema

[Flanders]

See the problem is there is no such word.........

Well, actually there are a few but there's one major difference. I'm generalising here and I'm not trying to stir the pot with anyone but it's my feeling that the difference is white people don't give two hoots what people call them.

 

[Mila]

Well, actually there are a few but there's one major difference. I'm generalising here and I'm not trying to stir the pot with anyone but it's my feeling that the difference is white people don't give two hoots what people call them.

Nope nothing you say can upset me as much as the k word upset black people....... It's because they have a bigger issue with themselfs being black than the rest of the world have with the colour of their skin.

 

[DJ...]

Well, actually there are a few but there's one major difference. I'm generalising here and I'm not trying to stir the pot with anyone but it's my feeling that the difference is white people don't give two hoots what people call them.

Interesting opinion. Generally that is true, until you call an Afrikaaner a dutchman, rock spider, boerboel, clutch plate etc...

 

[Blaze786]

Well, actually there are a few but there's one major difference. I'm generalising here and I'm not trying to stir the pot with anyone but it's my feeling that the difference is white people don't give two hoots what people call them.

+1 White people are a little more chilled when it comes to things like this, with in reason ofcourse.

 

[Devill]

Being irrevocably stupid does not make you a comedian, if that was the case I would have made millions of my younger brother ages ago

Lol, slapstick is also a form of comedy

 

[DJ...]

It's because they have a bigger issue with themselfs being black than the rest of the world have with the colour of their skin.

While that is true, they have their reasons for that. Whether it warrants different strokes for different folks is the issue - imo it doesn't, unless we want to learn nothing from our past and continue using it as an excuse for inexcusable behaviour...

 

[sox63]

are you implying then that being labelled a racist is somehow less derogatory??
Please explain!
Why not criminal, it goes against everything our constitution stands for!
Why then is the 'K' word criminal?

They are both disparaging terms used specifically to belittle/undermine/discredit/etc/etc.

IMO, calling someone racist is nowhere near derogatory, Its either they are or they are not. Simple.

Calling a black person the k-word is meant to cuase harm to that person's dignity, becuase of the history of the word. Now take for instance how members on this forum LOVE saying [insert public official/law/policy] is racist, should they now be hauled into court becuase of that? Certainly not, something/someone is either racist or its not.

 

[Blaze786]

Lol, slapstick is also a form of comedy

I agree 1000% Slapping him with a rather large stick would be hilarious!

 

[Mila]

I agree 1000% Slapping him with a rather large stick would be hilarious!

You can make money and call it a comedy show..... i would pay

 

[DJ...]

IMO, calling someone racist is nowhere near derogatory, Its either they are or they are not. Simple.

Calling a black person the k-word is meant to cuase harm to that person's dignity, becuase of the history of the word. Now take for instance how members on this forum LOVE saying [insert public official/law/policy] is racist, should they now be hauled into court becuase of that? Certainly not, something/someone is either racist or its not.

You bring up the history of the K word. Well considering the history of our country, does it not then stand to reason if we're going to use this argument, that being called racist is to a white person what calling a black person a K***** is? Empathy can work both ways...

 

[Slootvreter]

Now if he had called Zille [insert deregotry term for whites], then yeah roast his ass. But it can't be on the same level. Defamotory yes, criminal no.

Why is the K word criminal then?

Anyway...

"In classic Malema style, his ridiculous diatribe reveals more about his own inadequacies than it does about the intended victims of his attack."

HAHA well put!

 

[Blaze786]

IMO, calling someone racist is nowhere near derogatory, Its either they are or they are not. Simple.

Calling a black person the k-word is meant to cuase harm to that person's dignity, becuase of the history of the word. Now take for instance how members on this forum LOVE saying [insert public official/law/policy] is racist, should they now be hauled into court becuase of that? Certainly not, something/someone is either racist or its not.

The manner in which he used the term, DEFINATELY caused harm to zile's dignity, he openly called her racist in front of 100's of ANC Supporters. I mean really what do you think he did it as a compliment? Racist has a very rich history spanning 100's of years! Used to define people who "HATE" another race? is this not defaming her character, in the sense that JM told a large group of blacks that Zile "hates" them and their nation? Racist is a term used way to much buy the ANC, who feel fit to enforce BEE, etc. which clearly draws the line between White & Black. You tell me who the racists are.

 

[datafreak]

Being irrevocably stupid does not make you a comedian, if that was the case I would have made millions of my younger brother ages ago

Being irrevocably stupid and politics, go hand in hand... i actually think some of our politicians would make some real funny comedians.

 

[Slootvreter]

The manner in which he used the term, DEFINATELY caused harm to zile's dignity, he openly called her racist in front of 100's of ANC Supporters.

That's how they roll. Whip up the uneducated masses into a howling frenzy and there you have a million followers.

 

[Sneeky]

IMO, calling someone racist is nowhere near derogatory, Its either they are or they are not. Simple.

Calling a black person the k-word is meant to cuase harm to that person's dignity, becuase of the history of the word. Now take for instance how members on this forum LOVE saying [insert public official/law/policy] is racist, should they now be hauled into court becuase of that? Certainly not, something/someone is either racist or its not.

If they are not, what then?

Taken in context, calling a white person a racist then is certainly meant to harm their dignity, especially because of the history of the word and especially because of the country that we live in and our history.

Sorry, I do not buy your reasoning for one second.
It is derogatory, slanderous, scandalous and unacceptable considering the person it was directed at and I hope they take him to task on it.

 

[Blaze786]

If they are not, what then?

Taken in context, calling a white person a racist then is certainly meant to harm their dignity, especially because of the history of the word and especially because of the country that we live in and our history.

Sorry, I do not buy your reasoning for one second.
It is derogatory, slanderous, scandalous and unacceptable considering the person it was directed at and I hope they take him to task on it.

+10000000000000

 

[Flanders]

Interesting opinion. Generally that is true, until you call an Afrikaaner a dutchman, rock spider, boerboel, clutch plate etc...

I was generally speaking about terms directed from across the colour spectrum so to speak but you have a good point. I guess it is personal. I, on the other hand, fall into the soutpiel/rooinek category and can't help but laugh when I'm referred to by these names.

 

[DJ...]

I was generally speaking about terms directed from across the colour spectrum so to speak but you have a good point. I guess it is personal. I, on the other hand, fall into the soutpiel/rooinek category and can't help but laugh when I'm referred to by these names.

I'm in the same boat and couldn't care what anyone wants to label me based on my race. Anyone with more than 2 brain cells and without a history of racial prejudice against them knows that this means diddly squat. But call me a racist and it's a very different story. Do it publicly and I no longer see the difference between the k word and being publicly labelled a racist - they are the same thing in my book. Both serve to publicly humiliate, offend, belittle and most certainly affect the public perception of me, regardless of the basis of the accusation. In South Africa it is high time that we stopped playing the race card and instead starting accepting each and every one of us as equal South Africans, with equal "entitlement privileges". Sadly, this is but a pipe-dream, I know...

 

[Mila]

Interesting opinion. Generally that is true, until you call an Afrikaaner a dutchman, rock spider, boerboel, clutch plate etc...

Nope nothing.......

Now why would i be offended that you think i'm a Dutchman? That is a first world country? Rock spider ( animal) Boerboel (pretty dog) clutch plate ( very use full and Expensive) mmmmmmmmmmmmm

nah nothing to feel bad about all you are implying with that is that i'm white and that is something that does not bother me at all. Hell i'm very happy that i'm white

I would like a bumper sticker saying Thank God i'm a white Woman. But thats just common

 

[sox63]

If they are not, what then?

I said already that it is defamatory.

Sorry, I do not buy your reasoning for one second.

It is derogatory, slanderous, scandalous and unacceptable considering the person it was directed at and I hope they take him to task on it.

I'm not selling it , just saying its my own opinion. I'm sure the DA will take it further.