If a tenant installs an alarm on a property, does it count as a permanent fixture?

[HideInLight]

Scenario:

If I am renting an house and install an alarm for security, and give in my notice.
Am I allowed to take off that alarm I installed with my own money, and take it with me when I leave?

 

[saturnz]

Scenario:

If I am renting an house and install an alarm for security, and give in my notice.
Am I allowed to take off that alarm I installed with my own money, and take it with me when I leave?

you will need permission to install the alarm, when asking for permission you can figure out such details with the landlord

broadly speaking, if you turn the house upside down and shake it, what sticks to the building is regarded as a permanent fixture

 

[ToxicBunny]

Scenario:

If I am renting an house and install an alarm for security, and give in my notice.
Am I allowed to take off that alarm I installed with my own money, and take it with me when I leave?

Tricky one...

I think you can take it down, so long as you repair everything to the state it was in prior to the installation...

 

[pinball wizard]

Tricky one...

I think you can take it down, so long as you repair everything to the state it was in prior to the installation...

What she said. Take it with, but you must then paint and fill holes left behind by it's removal. Or have the landlord take that repair cost out of your deposit.

 

[Dolby]

Why don't you ask the landlord?

I'm sure he wouldn't be upset, even if you agree to split both ways. I had a tenant that wanted a pool net and he asked if we could go 50:50, which I accepted

 

[Hemi300c]

Tricky one...

I think you can take it down, so long as you repair everything to the state it was in prior to the installation...

This

 

[saturnz]

Why don't you ask the landlord?

I'm sure he wouldn't be upset, even if you agree to split both ways. I had a tenant that wanted a pool net and he asked if we could go 50:50, which I accepted

yeah I'm actually not sure why he would want to do something on the sly when he could just ask the landlord

 

[envo]

Depending on the landlord, he might agree to cover the cost of installation of the alarm where you just have to pay the monthly services fee. You might be able to convince him that this is a "selling point" for potential future tenants if you do decide to move on someday

Generally speaking though, any repairs and/or fixtures (like the alarm) you make yourself, generally stays when you move out again.

So tell your wife/girlfriend you will be throwing money in the water if you do this and then decide to move later. If she's happy with spending the money and leaving the alarm system when you leave, then that's it then finance manager has spoken

 

[F1 Fan]

Scenario:

If I am renting an house and install an alarm for security, and give in my notice.
Am I allowed to take off that alarm I installed with my own money, and take it with me when I leave?

I think it depends on the agreement you have with your landlord. If it is wireless, then there is probably no reason for him to know.

 

[The_Mowgs]

yeah I'm actually not sure why he would want to do something on the sly when he could just ask the landlord

I am going to ask you to provide proof that he wants to do this on the sly otherwise you are insinuating that he has ill intend...

 

[saturnz]

I am going to ask you to provide proof that he wants to do this on the sly otherwise you are insinuating that he has ill intend...

*yawn*

 

[Mos1td]

As an add-on to the above question, we are currently renting a unit from a rental agency. When we moved in, there was an alarm system installed, but no one knew what the codes were, or if any supplied remotes worked, and so we got the specialists in to get this sorted.
They helped set up new codes, got new remotes, and tested the alarm system, only to find the battery pack was not fully functional. We had a brand new system installed, and we asked the owner of the proprety if she would allow the upgrade, which she obviously did.
We did upgrades to the garden, fixed a few broken things in the house, and even got a router installed (also with her permission) at our expense.
The agency decided to do a random inspection last week, and now mentioned that the router installation must be fixed (I am not sure if this implies we need to remove the router, and fix any damages caused), and that we need to repaint the walls where the new alarm system units were installed, as you can now see the previous layers of paint that was behind the old panels...

Is this fair of them to ask us to not only pay for the upgrades, but now also for any "marks" left during these upgrades?

 

[zerocool2009]

If its a diy alarm, go nuts! If you need to sign a debit order going off, that another story

 

[ElixirCoder]

As an add-on to the above question, we are currently renting a unit from a rental agency. When we moved in, there was an alarm system installed, but no one knew what the codes were, or if any supplied remotes worked, and so we got the specialists in to get this sorted.
They helped set up new codes, got new remotes, and tested the alarm system, only to find the battery pack was not fully functional. We had a brand new system installed, and we asked the owner of the proprety if she would allow the upgrade, which she obviously did.
We did upgrades to the garden, fixed a few broken things in the house, and even got a router installed (also with her permission) at our expense.
The agency decided to do a random inspection last week, and now mentioned that the router installation must be fixed (I am not sure if this implies we need to remove the router, and fix any damages caused), and that we need to repaint the walls where the new alarm system units were installed, as you can now see the previous layers of paint that was behind the old panels...

Is this fair of them to ask us to not only pay for the upgrades, but now also for any "marks" left during these upgrades?

Yes. It is both reasonable and fair. For future school fees, do not spend your own money improving the house you’re renting.

The general rule is that improvements you’ve made will be ignored, and any and all damages you’ve caused must be rectified at your cost.