If you want Windows 11, you'll need a newer PC or laptop

AlphaJohn

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You are running the beta. The full public release wont work on our machines.

See attached


Its a soft cap not hard cap like TPM. ie: will fall under the recommended not to. You will still be able to run it...

If people like me running beta report no issues, pretty sure they would even move 7th gen out of soft cap into open.
 

Foxhound5366

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You can add a TPM module if your mobo has a SPI TPM 2.0 header.
I wouldn't even know where to look for that. I've got an MSI Gaming X (iirc) mobo ... is there some spec website that I can plug a model number into, or must I look at the board for something?
 

Foxhound5366

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Yes, the MSI support site would be a good place to start, https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/TPM-20-Module
Ok, so based on what I've found, and I might be entirely wrong, it seems my mobo doesn't support that at allllll.

This is my mobo specs: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z170A-GAMING-PRO/Specification

That shows I have this chipset (which is listed as a Intel '100 series' chipset lol): https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/90591/intel-z170-chipset.html

From the page you shared it is meant to be an Intel '300 series' or '400 series' to support that plug-in TPM 2.0 module ... so I think that means I am outta luck, bub.
 

RonSwanson

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Ok, so based on what I've found, and I might be entirely wrong, it seems my mobo doesn't support that at allllll.

This is my mobo specs: https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/Z170A-GAMING-PRO/Specification

That shows I have this chipset (which is listed as a Intel '100 series' chipset lol): https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/90591/intel-z170-chipset.html

From the page you shared it is meant to be an Intel '300 series' or '400 series' to support that plug-in TPM 2.0 module ... so I think that means I am outta luck, bub.
So you get new stuff, what's unlucky about that?
 

Johnatan56

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Well this is going to be old news to all the Windows 11 beta-testers, but I was today years old when I discovered this:

I found it out the hard way: I decided I wanted to experience the Windows 11 goodness so I joined the insiders programme ... and Windows broke the news right there that my computer wasn't compatible with Windows 11.

Huh? I skimmed the Windows 11 specs ... CPU (i7) should be ok. RAM (16 GB) yes? SSD with 100GB free ... ok. What else? Turns out I had to use this app to tell me: https://www.whynotwin11.com/

My PC is a bit long in the tooth (I'd say I got it around 2015), and that's my downfall. Windows 11 needs TPM 2.0, which is something introduced onto motherboards since 2016. Nice.

I don't recall EVER needing a hardware upgrade for a new version of Windows before, but apparently that's a thing next year for most of us. Start saving if you want it.
Dunno, Windows 10 seems fine, and it will be end of life ~ October 2025, your hardware will be 10 years old by that point, nothing forcing W11 till then.

Considering looking at what even the moderately recent computing changes are still bringing, we're finally getting to the point where tech is moving forward, big little in x86 (W11 supports it correctly, W10 doesn't), DX12 for interface (that was July 2015, Ultimate was 2020), TPM 2.0, etc. them not actually being able to use a lot of it to support backwards compatibility is pretty bad, at one point they do need to draw a line in the sand else people would start moving to competitors as you'd get faster/more feature rich (things like auto HDR, HDR is currently borked in W10, and I basically never enabled it even when I had an HDR 600 monitor for a month I borrowed because of how badly it messed up when alt-tabbing to other things).
 

SaucePlz

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Sometime ago I was playing around with WSL, node and puppeteer. Some things weren't working on WSL so I had to sign on to the Insiders Program to get it working. My pc upgraded to W11 without any intervention from me.
I got a notification a while ago saying my pc isn't compatible with W11 (while already running W11), since then I have continued to receive updates and haven't seen the notification again. I didn't have to change/enable/regedit anything other than when I signed up to Insiders, but that was before any of us even knew W11 was even a thing.
Specs:
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4460 CPU @ 3.20GHz 3.20 GHz
Installed RAM 12.0 GB (11.9 GB usable)
Device ID C43DD94F-2863-415A-81D5-62020147E9E8
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
Pen and touch No pen or touch input is available for this display
Edition Windows 11 Pro
Version 21H2
Installed on ‎7/‎18/‎2021
OS build 22000.132
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 1000.22000.132.0
 

RedViking

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My problem is how stupid expensive technology is. To upgrade from what I have now will cost me an arm and a leg.

And it is not like we have a world wide shortages anyways.
 
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