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Ineos Grenadier - the “no-nonsense 4×4 vehicle for the world”
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Toyota Land Cruiser (Prado) vs Ineos Grenadier - Alex on Autos
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Ineos: "we should be going for ‘lower’ emission vehicles, not zero emission"
Striving for a ‘one-tech’ solution is killing progress (and the car industry), according to Ineos Automotive CEO Lynn Calder
“We’re in a world where policy is defining what people should buy, and people don’t want it,” said Ineos Automotive CEO Lynn Calder at the FT’s Future of the Car summit.
Calder is voicing concerns about the regulations around the push for electrification. “I think customers don’t want choice, they need choice, [and] the policy framework that's in place with these kinds of drop-dead dates and a one-technology solution is designed inherently not to give that choice.”
Europe is the only region where petrol and diesel sales will be phased out in 2030 for passenger cars, and again in 2035 for commercial vehicles. Calder reckons there’s ‘no chance’ of there being ‘nothing but electric cars’ on the market by the time the 2035 deadline rolls around.
Despite the government relaxing the rules to allow hybrids to continue being sold, Calder said the timing is off (and Nissan's urgent restructuring suggests the Ineos boss does have a point): "The industry is on its knees. £4.5bn was put into the UK market last year to get customers into electric cars. Since [the pandemic], economic conditions have been terrible, powertrain policy has been difficult and confusing, [with] incessant regulation on supposed safety features that everyone wants to switch off - and then [we get] a trade war.
Striving for a ‘one-tech’ solution is killing progress (and the car industry), according to Ineos Automotive CEO Lynn Calder
“We’re in a world where policy is defining what people should buy, and people don’t want it,” said Ineos Automotive CEO Lynn Calder at the FT’s Future of the Car summit.
Calder is voicing concerns about the regulations around the push for electrification. “I think customers don’t want choice, they need choice, [and] the policy framework that's in place with these kinds of drop-dead dates and a one-technology solution is designed inherently not to give that choice.”
Europe is the only region where petrol and diesel sales will be phased out in 2030 for passenger cars, and again in 2035 for commercial vehicles. Calder reckons there’s ‘no chance’ of there being ‘nothing but electric cars’ on the market by the time the 2035 deadline rolls around.
Despite the government relaxing the rules to allow hybrids to continue being sold, Calder said the timing is off (and Nissan's urgent restructuring suggests the Ineos boss does have a point): "The industry is on its knees. £4.5bn was put into the UK market last year to get customers into electric cars. Since [the pandemic], economic conditions have been terrible, powertrain policy has been difficult and confusing, [with] incessant regulation on supposed safety features that everyone wants to switch off - and then [we get] a trade war.
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Ineos Grenadier vs Land Rover Defender: The Off-Road Battle! | Fifth Gear
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Driven: the Ineos Grenadier, a rugged, modern take on the classic 4x4
Aerodynamically, the Ineos Grenadier is a disaster.
Essentially it’s a brick outhouse pushing air out the way as it moves forward so don’t expect small car consumption.
Still, with a best of 10.4l/100km and a worst of 12.2l/100km, it’s not through the roof and provides a fairly decent distance from the 90 litre tank between fuel-ups.
So, if I had to win the Lotto, I wouldn’t tell anyone but there will be signs.
The R1,862,100 Ineos Grenadier Trailmaster in my driveway would be one.
Aerodynamically, the Ineos Grenadier is a disaster.
Essentially it’s a brick outhouse pushing air out the way as it moves forward so don’t expect small car consumption.
Still, with a best of 10.4l/100km and a worst of 12.2l/100km, it’s not through the roof and provides a fairly decent distance from the 90 litre tank between fuel-ups.
So, if I had to win the Lotto, I wouldn’t tell anyone but there will be signs.
The R1,862,100 Ineos Grenadier Trailmaster in my driveway would be one.
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Shooting Cars review of the Grenadier Quartermaster
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Mercedes-Benz G580 Electric vs Ineos Grenadier - Alex on Autos
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The 2025 Ineos Grenadier Quartermaster Is a $90,000 Workhorse Truck - Doug DeMuro
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You can now officially buy the portal axled Ineos Grenadier, if you’ve got £150k lying around
Ineos teams up with LeTech to put its monstrous conversion kit into production after over 1,000 people expressed interest
Remember the Ineos Grenadier LeTech prototype we drove up a mountain in Iceland, and then again in a muddy field in the UK? Well, after over 1,000 people expressed their interest in buying one, it’ll soon be officially available to order at your local Ineos showroom.
Well, so long as you live in Germany, with the LeTech being offered to the rest of Europe thereafter. And so long as you have a spare €170,000 excluding VAT lying around for the Station Wagon version, or €171,000 excluding VAT for the giant Quartermaster pickup.
Yeah, it’s not cheap. But you are getting a lot of off-road kit for the cash. These Grenadiers will start life at the Ineos factory in Hambach as muddy spec Trialmasters with front and rear locking diffs. They will then be taken to LeTech’s facility near Stuttgart in Germany where they’ll be fitted with “a new heavy-duty five-link front and rear suspension layout, portal axles with wheel hubs offset from the main axle and larger 37in BFGoodrich Mud Terrain off-road tyres”.
The 3.0-litre turbo straight-six from BMW remains unchanged no matter whether you spec the petrol or diesel option, but LeTech also adds 18in forged beadlock alloy wheels, new brakes, wider wheel arches and running boards, a front winch, a rear ladder, a roof rack and a lightbar with six LED spotlights. A tyre pressure control system and LED rear lamps are also options. Yes, give us all of the spotlights. The tiptoed Grenadiers also come with a full leather interior, heated front seats, safari windows and a ‘premium sound system’.
Ineos teams up with LeTech to put its monstrous conversion kit into production after over 1,000 people expressed interest
Remember the Ineos Grenadier LeTech prototype we drove up a mountain in Iceland, and then again in a muddy field in the UK? Well, after over 1,000 people expressed their interest in buying one, it’ll soon be officially available to order at your local Ineos showroom.
Well, so long as you live in Germany, with the LeTech being offered to the rest of Europe thereafter. And so long as you have a spare €170,000 excluding VAT lying around for the Station Wagon version, or €171,000 excluding VAT for the giant Quartermaster pickup.
Yeah, it’s not cheap. But you are getting a lot of off-road kit for the cash. These Grenadiers will start life at the Ineos factory in Hambach as muddy spec Trialmasters with front and rear locking diffs. They will then be taken to LeTech’s facility near Stuttgart in Germany where they’ll be fitted with “a new heavy-duty five-link front and rear suspension layout, portal axles with wheel hubs offset from the main axle and larger 37in BFGoodrich Mud Terrain off-road tyres”.
The 3.0-litre turbo straight-six from BMW remains unchanged no matter whether you spec the petrol or diesel option, but LeTech also adds 18in forged beadlock alloy wheels, new brakes, wider wheel arches and running boards, a front winch, a rear ladder, a roof rack and a lightbar with six LED spotlights. A tyre pressure control system and LED rear lamps are also options. Yes, give us all of the spotlights. The tiptoed Grenadiers also come with a full leather interior, heated front seats, safari windows and a ‘premium sound system’.
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Ineos Grenadier gets portal axles for £147k
Conversion by German firm Letech promises genuine go-anywhere capability
Ineos will sell the extreme portal-axled version of the Grenadier 4x4 shown at last year’s Goodwood Festival of Speed, with prices starting at €170,000 (£147,000).
Called the Grenadier Trialmaster X Letech, it can be had as both an SUV and a pick-up, with a choice of BMW-supplied 3.0-litre straight sixes powered by petrol or diesel.
Built by German firm Letech, it replaces the regular Grenadier’s coil suspension with a new portal-axle design with five reinforced links at its front and rear ends, and offset wheel hubs. Combined with a set of 18in Hutchinson Industries beadlock wheels and 37in BFGoodrich tyres, this raises the Grenadier’s ground clearance by 186mm to 450mm and its wading depth rises to 1050mm.
The new axles are also said to provide greater wheel articulation and better weight distribution, further improving the 4x4’s off-road capabilities.
Completing the package are flared wheel arches, a ladder with a jerry can mount, spotlights, a spare wheel carrier and a front winch capable of lugging 4.5 tonnes.
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Conversion by German firm Letech promises genuine go-anywhere capability
Ineos will sell the extreme portal-axled version of the Grenadier 4x4 shown at last year’s Goodwood Festival of Speed, with prices starting at €170,000 (£147,000).
Called the Grenadier Trialmaster X Letech, it can be had as both an SUV and a pick-up, with a choice of BMW-supplied 3.0-litre straight sixes powered by petrol or diesel.
Built by German firm Letech, it replaces the regular Grenadier’s coil suspension with a new portal-axle design with five reinforced links at its front and rear ends, and offset wheel hubs. Combined with a set of 18in Hutchinson Industries beadlock wheels and 37in BFGoodrich tyres, this raises the Grenadier’s ground clearance by 186mm to 450mm and its wading depth rises to 1050mm.
The new axles are also said to provide greater wheel articulation and better weight distribution, further improving the 4x4’s off-road capabilities.
Completing the package are flared wheel arches, a ladder with a jerry can mount, spotlights, a spare wheel carrier and a front winch capable of lugging 4.5 tonnes.
Ineos Grenadier becomes madcap go-anywhere 4x4 – for £150k | Autocar
Conversion by German firm Letech promises genuine go-anywhere capability
www.autocar.co.uk
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Imagine uttering the phrase: "My Ineos Grenadier just isn't that much of a capable off-roader"Ineos Grenadier gets portal axles for £147k
Conversion by German firm Letech promises genuine go-anywhere capability
Ineos will sell the extreme portal-axled version of the Grenadier 4x4 shown at last year’s Goodwood Festival of Speed, with prices starting at €170,000 (£147,000).
Called the Grenadier Trialmaster X Letech, it can be had as both an SUV and a pick-up, with a choice of BMW-supplied 3.0-litre straight sixes powered by petrol or diesel.
Built by German firm Letech, it replaces the regular Grenadier’s coil suspension with a new portal-axle design with five reinforced links at its front and rear ends, and offset wheel hubs. Combined with a set of 18in Hutchinson Industries beadlock wheels and 37in BFGoodrich tyres, this raises the Grenadier’s ground clearance by 186mm to 450mm and its wading depth rises to 1050mm.
The new axles are also said to provide greater wheel articulation and better weight distribution, further improving the 4x4’s off-road capabilities.
Completing the package are flared wheel arches, a ladder with a jerry can mount, spotlights, a spare wheel carrier and a front winch capable of lugging 4.5 tonnes.
Ineos Grenadier becomes madcap go-anywhere 4x4 – for £150k | Autocar
Conversion by German firm Letech promises genuine go-anywhere capability
I would be in a G-Class long before that Ineos thing. Nice Black one, some chrome finishes, proper tyres that don't look like a goodyear blimp...
I suppose you could make the Ineos look better with some cosmetic changes. But prob not worth it.
I suppose you could make the Ineos look better with some cosmetic changes. But prob not worth it.