Interesting solution for High ADSL pricing (International Downloads)

[Nalith]

Hi All

I'm looking at a idea to be able to cut down on international download costs, can you guys give me some feedback:

The solution will let you specify a file or list of files to download, and once downloaded it will either e-mail or dump the downloaded data on a local server YOU specify. This solution will allow you to download international data and only pay local rates.

Will you guys be keen on something like this, and what will you be willing to pay per/GB for something like this.

 

[albert123]

most ISP's do that anyway, its called a proxy server at the ISP?

 

[Surv0]

Openweb have something called Open Courier, allows you to download a certain amount of gigs, not 2 sure, onto their server where u can access it locally. its a good idea.

 

[Nalith]

most ISP's do that anyway, its called a proxy server at the ISP?

Proxy's send you files in your mailbox didn't know that.

This solution will allow you to specify what file to download, and then allow you to get a R139 30Gb local only account and use that to download data from the local server you specify. This is nothing like a proxy solution. More acting like a courrier service.

 

[Nalith]

Openweb have something called Open Courier, allows you to download a certain amount of gigs, not 2 sure, onto their server where u can access it locally. its a good idea.

Had a look at their idea, just a bit expensive, looking at something similar, but also include getting data from newsgroups etc.

 

[Surv0]

Well if ur not looking at eating your own cap it would have to be the ISP's. They the only ones that can offer that service, unless of course u have a proxy on an uncapped line u can use...

 

[Nalith]

Well if ur not looking at eating your own cap it would have to be the ISP's. They the only ones that can offer that service, unless of course u have a proxy on an uncapped line u can use...

The downloads will not take place on SA, they will only be e-mailed or dumped on a SA ftp address. This is just an idea i'm playing with, want to see what the feedback will be.

 

[silkman]

I for 1 would definitely be interested if the price is right. I am fed up with the current IS newsgroup situation

 

[Logo]

Does not solve all the problems

It still does not help with torrent downloads, as I can't see anyone running a torrent on behalf of someone else and then put it on a server for you to download from again.

Someone pointed out earlier that ISPs use proxy servers while that is true, most proxies have a high and low limit on the file sizes. If a straight HTTP file download is over X mb then the Proxy server will not cache it. Imagine for yourslef 10 000 people using a proxy server all of them do a download of different 1mb files, that is already 10gig before you even start caching the websites etc, so to cache 1gig files or downloads are not viable.

I don't know if there really is an easy cheap solution to this problem, because remember the person / company / service who will do the actual download will have to pay for their international bandwidth, and will have to recover that money somewhere

 

[Surv0]

well dont know about them being emailed but dumped on an FTP ya, except if your running that FTP your still gonna be paying out of ur ass for that international b/w. The only feasible option would be to get the ISP's to initiate something like that one their side, your side will always be 2 exp

 

[Nalith]

I for 1 would definitely be interested if the price is right. I am fed up with the current IS newsgroup situation

This solution was inspired by the exact same reason.

Basically the solution would work as follows:

1) You dump the NZB file on a webpage.
2) It will download the data
3) E-Mail the data to a SA e-mail address
4) You will have a application this side that will check your e-mail a certain interval’s, and then download the mail. (The mail will have to be split into chunks, so it will have to re-joined it again)

You would pay for local bandwith to downlod the data (From your e-mail account), and a nominal fee to me for sending you file to you via e-mail.

This is one of those ideas that suddenly hit you, and I think it might actually work

Just getting a feel what people would pay per gig for something like this, because I will need to cover my costs etc.

 

[Surv0]

hmm sounds interesting.... but do you not think it would start to kill the email servers... i dont think they are equipped or prepared for so much data throughput..

 

[Nalith]

well dont know about them being emailed but dumped on an FTP ya, except if your running that FTP your still gonna be paying out of ur ass for that international b/w. The only feasible option would be to get the ISP's to initiate something like that one their side, your side will always be 2 exp

Thats why I was thinking in lines of the e-mail route. Does not cost you anything to recieve e-mail, only to download it.

 

[Nalith]

hmm sounds interesting.... but do you not think it would start to kill the email servers... i dont think they are equipped or prepared for so much data throughput..

It should not, because unlike our current news servers, not everyone is going to try and connect/download from the same server. Maybe they are due for an upgrade anyway.

 

[Kasyx]

sure but you would have to enforce limits on number of users per email server.

ie. a max of 50 webmail.co.za addresses can be downloading at the same time, and so on...

 

[Equinox]

webmail would soon start bouncing it. No email provider wants users pushing 3GB of data over their hosting lines. Especially at average pricings of 9c/meg or so.

 

[JayT]

most mailboxes have a max size of around 10MB. Some bigger ones are around 100MB. You cant really email downloads as the virus and spam filters at the isp could possibly remove the attachments and those that make it through will fill the mailbox to quickly

 

[Nalith]

webmail would soon start bouncing it. No email provider wants users pushing 3GB of data over their hosting lines. Especially at average pricings of 9c/meg or so.

Thats the only problem with this idea, is getting the data to a local area where people can access their files.

 

[dabouncer]

This solution was inspired by the exact same reason.

Basically the solution would work as follows:

1) You dump the NZB file on a webpage.
2) It will download the data
3) E-Mail the data to a SA e-mail address
4) You will have a application this side that will check your e-mail a certain interval’s, and then download the mail. (The mail will have to be split into chunks, so it will have to re-joined it again)

You would pay for local bandwith to downlod the data (From your e-mail account), and a nominal fee to me for sending you file to you via e-mail.

This is one of those ideas that suddenly hit you, and I think it might actually work

Just getting a feel what people would pay per gig for something like this, because I will need to cover my costs etc.

Oh ja, so im going to download a 8gb tv series and start receiving split mails in my mail box of which the max size per inbound mail is 10mb. I think ur mail idea is impractical. ftp is better. Otherwise run a international server, vpn to it on ur pc, proxy ur connection to us locally.

Wont happen. But have fun trying.