Internal CDC document warns delta variant more infectious, can spread among vaccinated people - report

Jola

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So much conflicting news... This says Canada, and the CDC (US) advise against it strongly


And living in the US, I haven't seen this communicated at all... I had two Pfizer.

My son lives in Canada, he first had a Pfizer shot, and now a Moderna. That seems to be common over there.

He didn't have a strong reaction to the Pfizer, but felt somewhat down after the Moderna.
 

DA-LION-619

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My son lives in Canada, he first had a Pfizer shot, and now a Moderna. That seems to be common over there.

He didn't have a strong reaction to the Pfizer, but felt somewhat down after the Moderna.
How many days apart? If you do know.
 

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Cases in the UK are dropping.

We are fully open.

Our double vaccination rate is over 70%.
Israel is the opposite and they were vaccinated just ahead of the UK. So tell us again in a few months.
 

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Scientists have already proven that if you masturbate every day you will be cured of the Covid19 disease.
I read it earlier on the forum somewhere this morning :thumbsup:
 

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Israel is the opposite and they were vaccinated just ahead of the UK. So tell us again in a few months.
You keep bringing that up and yet were constantly refuted, stop posting that nonsense, check the actual death rate in Israel.
 

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You keep bringing that up and yet were constantly refuted, stop posting that nonsense, check the actual death rate in Israel.
Israel is going up again. That hasn't been refuted.
 

Johnatan56

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Israel is going up again. That hasn't been refuted.
Ah yes, them still having their youth not vaccinated:
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And that they stopped social distancing measures, and that we're talking about people either unvaccinated or over 60.

Just one serious COVID patient in Israel is both vaccinated and under 60 — TV​


Report indicates more than 60% of those hospitalized with coronavirus are fully vaccinated, but almost all are over age 60

Only one of 61 Israelis hospitalized with COVID in serious condition is a fully vaccinated individual under the age of 60, Channel 12 news reported Sunday, citing Health Ministry figures.

According to the report, 24 of those in serious condition are unvaccinated, while 37 are fully vaccinated. The lone seriously ill fully vaccinated person under 60 was in the 50-59 age group.


No fully vaccinated individuals under age 50 were in serious condition.

Meanwhile, among the unvaccinated, 14 people under age 50 were in serious condition, two of whom were younger than 40.

Who would have guessed when they said 90%+ that they didn't mean 100%.

I'm really seeing that huge uptick in intensive care:
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Oh and note the not 100% vaccination rate:
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And look, the stats changed from one day to the next, so they're still being reported on:
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No one ever said the vaccine was 100% effective, just that your chance of severe illness is substantially reduced, long-term effects reduced, and chance of death substantially reduced.
But of course, you like knocking the vaccine permanently because not 100% effective, Israel is of course the greatest example as they managed a near 80% vaccination rate, yet let's not take into account that there are other health problems, large population of <18 that actually is now statistically significant as the older age groups are vaccinated.

Nice read in regards to UK: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/06/youth-delta-variant-behind-uk-covid-surge
And: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-health-coronavirus-idUSL2N2OJ0HW
 

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Swa

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Ah yes, that thing called Delta.

Proves the point.

Ah yes, them still having their youth not vaccinated:
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And that they stopped social distancing measures, and that we're talking about people either unvaccinated or over 60.

Who would have guessed when they said 90%+ that they didn't mean 100%.

I'm really seeing that huge uptick in intensive care:
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Oh and note the not 100% vaccination rate:
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And look, the stats changed from one day to the next, so they're still being reported on:
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No one ever said the vaccine was 100% effective, just that your chance of severe illness is substantially reduced, long-term effects reduced, and chance of death substantially reduced.
But of course, you like knocking the vaccine permanently because not 100% effective, Israel is of course the greatest example as they managed a near 80% vaccination rate, yet let's not take into account that there are other health problems, large population of <18 that actually is now statistically significant as the older age groups are vaccinated.

Nice read in regards to UK: https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/news-perspective/2021/06/youth-delta-variant-behind-uk-covid-surge
And: https://www.reuters.com/article/factcheck-health-coronavirus-idUSL2N2OJ0HW
Nobody mentioned 100% effective. It's going up so becoming less effective, why they want to do 3rd shots. A convenient fact you just continue to ignore.
 
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