International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 2

[Brian_G]

Also too many people are too lazy to read. Just jump in and ask away.

 

[vxv]

A good and quite intimidating article ANALYSIS: When will the coronavirus epidemic peak in Germany?

 

[Fulcrum29]

Giving people an inch never works.. always take it all. EU, UK, US and ZA have this in common with a large enough % of populous to make it problematic as seen elsewhere too.

People disobey traffic rules.. imagine my surprise when spouse told me that she saw people loitering at store(she did restock .. tho we trying to avg every 2weeks.. hard when stores limit 2 per item).

Nzl is an outlier in this respect but I dunno I suspect they will tighten up fast if it isn’t under control. Reality is that they have a small populous and an island x2 which is easily isolated. I reckon the SA crowd will likely be bitching about it there and disobeying rules as is the norm.. the avg Nzl citizen tho is law abiding (they do have drinking issues as is here tho).

They still need to abide by the restrictions and are allowed to drive to go and obtain essentials. They are allowed to drive short distances to seek medical assistance, legal assistance and to engage in other valid essential activities. They are not allowed to drive to an exercising spot, but they may take their bicycle to this exercising spot to exercise with their bicycle.

They also allow parenting plans to be exercised, as long as the travel distance is short which they guide as an hour's drive and as long as the quarantine is shared meaning that the children need to stay between parents and not with other people. All playgrounds are prohibited.

Their social distancing, IIRC, is guided as 2m between people, as long as physical distancing is maintained they seem to be rather okay with their 'level 4' lockdown. They also have the 'buddy system' where two individuals each live alone may socially agree to see each other, but no one else. For them, lockdown is all about maintaining bubbles.

I have seen Kiwis complain about other Kiwis breaking the rules, but those I know there seems to be happy.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

It helps if people understand WHY decisions are being made.

And it would make this sub-forum a lot shorter, instead of asking X,Y,Z repeatedly over and over.

There's even confusion about that

 

[dlk001]

Some statistics being reported by CNN from Chicago, Michigan, Illinois, Louisiana

 

[dlk001]

Long voting queues in Wisconsin, its a choice between health and exercising the fundamental right to vote.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Long voting queues in Wisconsin, its a choice between health and exercising the fundamental right to vote.

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They could have applied for mail in ballots.

 

[Hamish McPanji]

They could have applied for mail in ballots.

If they actually arrived in the post.

 

[Dave]

They could have applied for mail in ballots.

or in normal English, a postal ballot.

 

[Steamy Tom]

or in normal English, a postal ballot.

I prefer his version

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

or in normal English, a postal ballot.

That's the UK term. Americans use the term I described (or to be more precise vote-by-mail)

 

[Archer]

France needs help...desperately. They must currently have the highest per capita death rate at the moment...

France is currently 6th for per capita deaths.

This site also recently added the numbers of tests each country has been doing

Coronavirus Update (Live): 138,099,447 Cases and 2,974,469 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

 

[Fox1]

If you're bored and want to catch up on some Covid19 conspiracies with some explanations then checkout Nathan Rich on YouTube.

 

[dlk001]

It will be the darkest day for the USA and France. The USA will report over 2000 deaths.

 

[Fox1]

That number of new cases for France

 

[Dave]

I prefer his version

Chris likes to pretend he is a true blue Tory Brit, as such you would think he would want to speak English rather than American.

That's the UK term. Americans use the term I described (or to be more precise vote-by-mail)

As above.

 

[Napalm]

It will be the darkest day for the USA and France. The USA will report over 2000 deaths.

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Those numbers look ruff.... Which site you get that off?

 

[dlk001]

Those numbers look ruff.... Which site you get that off?

It is heartbreaking

Coronavirus Update (Live): 138,099,447 Cases and 2,974,469 Deaths from COVID-19 Virus Pandemic - Worldometer

Live statistics and coronavirus news tracking the number of confirmed cases, recovered patients, tests, and death toll due to the COVID-19 coronavirus from Wuhan, China. Coronavirus counter with new cases, deaths, and number of tests per 1 Million population. Historical data and info. Daily...

www.worldometers.info

 

[OrbitalDawn]

My biggest issue with WHO is their do not panic, we've investigated and no human to human transfer bs they were spinning mid to end jan. How many countries were getting first cases and breathed a sign of relief and backed off preparations, screening etc as there was nothing to worry about, only way to be infected was at market in wuhan. Just shows they conducted 0 investigations, they just peddled whatever bs the commies were feeding them... WHO needs to be investigated for all this bs

This is revisionism. You're overstating what they did. They had 1 tweet that said there wasn't any evidence at that stage of human transmission. Within a week there was public information released by China indicating there was.

 

[OrbitalDawn]

New Zealand isn’t just flattening the curve. It’s squashing it.

So apparently New Zealand that also went into lockdown about 10 days ago is squashing the curve. Yet they are still allowed smokes and to walk and bike around their neighbourhood.
So if they are managing to squash the curve why is it impossible that we've done the same?

The NZ Government's response has been pretty exemplary, all things considered. The PM is in her element during a crisis.

You are allowed to take a hour long driving distance away from your residence in New Zealand. It is reasonable in my opinion.

It is more a case of exercising obedience which is difficult in our country as already proven. Same rules for everyone.

No, you're not. Where did you see that? They only want you to drive for essential reasons.

You can walk/cycle in your local area, though. As long as you can do it while maintaining proper social distancing.

True when a minister just breaks it, this is just going to cause more people to break the rules now.

The NZ Health Minister did break the lockdown, idiotically.

He lost his one portfolio and got demoted in the Cabinet rankings. PM said in ordinary circumstances she would have fired him, but didn't want to compromise the COVID-19 response, which is fair enough.