International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 2

[ForceFate]

and yet over 30 countries have tested in excess of 1% of their entire population ... ZA is at 0.1%

hell the only developed country that has tested as little or less than us in %-of-population terms is Japan

US has also tested 0.1% of their population.

 

[Temujin]

US has also tested 0.1% of their population.

0.6%, they cracked 2million yesterday, will be 1%+ soon

 

[Lupus]

US has also tested 0.1% of their population.

They've tested 0.6%, Russia at 0.55%, France is at 0.33%. There are 184 countries in the world, the fact that 30 have gotten to 1% of their populations isn't that great especially when some of them only have populations of 4.5 million, it's a lot easier to get to 1% when the numbers are lower.

 

[krycor]

Another record breaking bad day for the US, UK, France?

 

[Archer]

So the Dutch are considering using mobile apps as part of their exit strategy. One of these would alert you if you have come into contact with someone who has the virus which would ease the burden on contact tracing. The biggest hurdle at the moment seems to be privacy concerns.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

EU science chief resigns, slamming bloc’s coronavirus response

The president of the EU’s top science funding agency stepped down Tuesday, issuing a damning indictment of the bloc’s response to the coronavirus crisis.

Mauro Ferrari, an Italian-American scientist who has led the European Research Council since January, said he had resigned following a dispute over the EU’s approach to the crisis — stating he has “lost faith in the system.”

In a nearly 1,000-word statement published by the Financial Times, Ferrari described a breakdown in relations between himself and the EU agency he was appointed last May to oversee, citing an “internal political thunderstorm” involving the highest levels of the European Commission.

“I have been extremely disappointed by the European response to Covid-19,” said Ferrari.

As well as a failure to fund scientists to tackle the crisis, Ferrari cited a “complete absence of coordination of health care policies among member states, the recurrent opposition to cohesive financial support initiatives, the pervasive one-sided border closures, and the marginal scale of synergistic scientific initiatives” by the EU.

 

[Archer]

EU science chief resigns, slamming bloc’s coronavirus response

From my limited experience Europeans really like rules and order (in government), and methinks this guy expected some amount of flexibility in a crisis, whereas from his perspective the system doubled down and stuck to the rules and guidelines. Both approaches have their merits of course

 

[RedViking]

US pumping those number. Hectic.

 

[Mirai]

From my limited experience Europeans really like rules and order (in government), and methinks this guy expected some amount of flexibility in a crisis, whereas from his perspective the system doubled down and stuck to the rules and guidelines. Both approaches have their merits of course

No. The EU did not co-ordinate a response. Each nation followed their own. Some countries shut borders first and instituted social distancing while others went with business as usual and just banned large gatherings. When push comes to shove, EU is weak and indecisive.

 

[Mirai]

So the Dutch are considering using mobile apps as part of their exit strategy. One of these would alert you if you have come into contact with someone who has the virus which would ease the burden on contact tracing. The biggest hurdle at the moment seems to be privacy concerns.

They Dutch laid off thousands of nursing staff in the preceeding years. That is now biting them in the a$$.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

From my limited experience Europeans really like rules and order (in government), and methinks this guy expected some amount of flexibility in a crisis, whereas from his perspective the system doubled down and stuck to the rules and guidelines. Both approaches have their merits of course

I think it's more than individual European countries decided on their own policies based on their own assessment - as it should be, I might add. European countries are coping differently in the crisis and a one size fits all approach just wouldn't work e.g. Austria & Greece (surprisingly) are doing much better than Italy and Spain. The EU is showing it's pretty much irrelevant.

 

[lumeer]

EU science chief resigns, slamming bloc’s coronavirus response

In his position, he of all people had the power to change things, but instead, he quit, with a bit of theatrics thrown in.

 

[Archer]

No. The EU did not co-ordinate a response. Each nation followed their own. Some countries shut borders first and instituted social distancing while others went with business as usual and just banned large gatherings. When push comes to shove, EU is weak and indecisive.

You missed the point
The EU has little control over what measures each nation should take (they certainly can't tell member states to shelter in place for example from what I know), hence the nations therein followed their own route as prescribed in the laws/guidelines/rules.

 

[Archer]

They Dutch laid off thousands of nursing staff in the preceeding years. That is now biting them in the a$$.

Ok and this has what exactly to do with using apps as part of an exit strategy?
I also have yet to see a source for this claim you make. I know there are shortages in the medical sector, but no active lay offs

 

[Mirai]

Ok and this has what exactly to do with using apps as part of an exit strategy?
I also have yet to see a source for this claim you make. I know there are shortages in the medical sector, but no active lay offs

It's a foreign language report in an European language you wouldn't understand.

The EU did not or could not allow for co-ordination. Whatever the minutiae are the effects are the same. It was mostly useless.

This is not a dedicated thread to an app. I don't see that in the title, Archer. You need to cool down a bit.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Italy’s Reopening Plan Advances in Test for Europe’s Virus Exit

Italy’s discussions to gradually lift restrictions to contain the coronavirus are advancing, as Europe’s exit from stringent lockdown measures takes shape.

Amid tense discussions weighing political and economic pressures with public-health concerns, Prime Minister Giuseppe Conte’s government is hammering out an approach that foresees the full return to normal life taking months, according to people directly involved in the talks.

In the original epicenter of the outbreak on the continent, schools will likely remain closed until September, with every step to ease restrictions dependent on the spread of the deadly disease remaining under control, said the people, who asked not to be identified because the discussions are confidential.

Some companies and shops may resume operations as soon as April 13, and Italians could be allowed to go outside and gradually return to offices as of May 4, the people said.

As the first European country to impose a nationwide lockdown, Italy’s move to ease its restrictions would mark an important step in the region’s battle with the pandemic that started in China and spread across the world.

 

[Archer]

It's a foreign language report in an European language you wouldn't understand.

Ah so now you also know all the languages I speak. Your knowledge knows no bounds, I am truly humbled. Perhaps you could still grace us google translate plebs with the source

 

[Temujin]

EU science chief resigns, slamming bloc’s coronavirus response

Heh, who would have thought people who spend years debating candle wick length laws couldn't run a bath

 

[theratman]

Ah so now you also know all the languages I speak. Your knowledge knows no bounds, I am truly humbled. Perhaps you could still grace us google translate plebs with the source

This reminds me of the "I love it when you talk foreign" Wimpy ad.

 

[daveza]

100,000 new cases in 4 days !