Do you think the healthcare system sits in some bubble outside of the economic collapse all around it?
This crackdown is supposed to flatten some curve or whatever in the hope that once it's flat the healthcare system wont collapse? If the economy continues to fall apart, the healthcare system will be dragged under along with everything else anyway.
Mulling over the numbers, yes, still early days and countries still weeks behind, but short of a country going nuts and having millions of deaths, this doesn't look like its even going to crack 50% of flu annual death numbers(300-600k)... thoughts?
It's demonstrably more infectious than seasonal flu, with a 10x higher kill rate. You cant say with the world really only having experienced this from March that its better than a years worth of flu. In addition, the point is not only about how severe this specific virus is - it is rather its impact on healthcare systems and putting them in a position whereby they cannot cope, thus causing issues for EVERYONE that is dependent on said healthcare system irrespective of condition they happen to have. If the infection rate/death rate do not exceed flu it will be because of the action governments around the world have taken. I cant understand how this is still difficult to understand.....
Dunno about the number or the suicide, but each employed person in SA supports how many? 5? 10? Other people, who now will be more undernourished, more susceptible to disease and so and so on. It's a colossal disaster that will take decades for this country to get out of. The virus and the lives it takes will be an old distant memory and we'll all still be on the verge of poverty due to what is happening right now.
A part of me wants everyone to be back at work and then you have a private health facility that has the highest of cleanliness standards in the country where so many infections spread in KZN.
Do you think the healthcare system sits in some bubble outside of the economic collapse all around it?
This crackdown is supposed to flatten some curve or whatever in the hope that once it's flat the healthcare system wont collapse? If the economy continues to fall apart, the healthcare system will be dragged under along with everything else anyway.
Do you think the healthcare system sits in some bubble outside of the economic collapse all around it?
This crackdown is supposed to flatten some curve or whatever in the hope that once it's flat the healthcare system wont collapse? If the economy continues to fall apart, the healthcare system will be dragged under along with everything else anyway.
The health system is pretty much inefficient without the Doctors and lots of the best specialists are old , so you can have the buildings , but most of the staff will be gone , with have PTSD and lot's dead. And people commit suicides over the above too, not just because of not working for 2 months.
"It is well known that South Africa doesn’t have enough doctors. What is less known is that the medical specialists are ageing within their field of speciality. Through internal analysis, based on Medpages data, we’ve highlighted the top 10 specialities with the highest percentage of medical specialists over the age of 60 – i.e. those possibly nearing retirement.
The graph shows that cardiologists are the most heavily represented, with 40% (or four in every ten) of all cardiologist specialists over the age of 60. They are followed by gastroenterologists, pulmonologists, ENT specialists and vascular surgeons"
We’ve highlighted the top 10 specialities with the highest percentage of medical specialists over the age of 60 – i.e. those possibly nearing retirement.
www.healthbridge.co.za
This was 4 years ago..Who ever things that him losing income is more important, its full of shite..
Cabin fever / Bunker fever is the next threat. Maybe not flu level (the gold standard comparison) numbers in the short term, but a lot of people are going to come out of this....errrmm....batshit crazy, so the numbers will rise over time
Wife and I decided to watch "Contagion" last night. If you take away all the Hollywood, it could pass for a documentary about what's currently going on, and the near future that is just bound to get much worse, right up to the mass graves, etc.
There is light at the end of the tunnel, I'm sure, but we won't see it for a while. Everything happening now is probably not even close to the peak. After a couple of quieter days, the UK has hit its highest death total for a day.
And I guess cabin fever is setting in, because the scenes where they have to wear the wrist bands after they get vaccinated, and aren't allowed to go anywhere or buy anything without them, got me thinking about the whole New World Order conspiracy theories doing the rounds. Get everyone sick. Make them believe that this is the new way we need to live under constant control for our own safety, and then give them the cure. Bill Gates contributes more to the WHO than the UK - why? Because he wants to be philanthropic? Or because it buys him a seat at one of the most powerful tables in the world. Somewhere someone didn't realise that 1984 was meant to be a warning, not a guide.
The reason we are where we are is because nothing was done till March, instead everyone trying to talk about this was told to stop over reacting, the flu kills more people every year.
We're in lockdown because left unchecked this will kill 15%-20% when the hospitals get overwhelmend as most serious cases requiring hospitlization require only oxygen.
If hospitals are overflowing, running out of oxygen, people are dying on the streets and being left to rot in the locations, it will destablize any government.
That is what we're trying to avoid, a depression is better than civil war.
They are seeing that people who have mild symptoms have created far less antibodies than those with severe symptoms. Next they will investigate to what extent this impacts future immunity
ICUs are working at 200% of normal capacity (no elaboration on what that means exactly but I think it refers to total patients)
ICU use will be back to normal around 1 June according to one projection (this implies there are of course projections that put it earlier and later)
There is a big worry wrt burnout of medical staff
The country now has 2400 ICU beds (1900 in use for COVID-19 patients) and logistically can't have any more due to having run out of staff to man them (without lowering standard of care). I personally wonder to what extent the military is already involved in this
New cases have been flat around the 1000 per day mark for about 14 days now
Along with this the infection rate has been hovering around 1 for 3 weeks now
About 30% of people in ICU for COVID-19 die, compared to just under 20% in normal circumstances
Overall sentiment is that it is still too early to relax the lockdown rules
On a personal note, they are still frustratingly slow with recording recovered cases (current ratio is 9:1 for deaths:recovery)
Wife and I decided to watch "Contagion" last night. If you take away all the Hollywood, it could pass for a documentary about what's currently going on, and the near future that is just bound to get much worse, right up to the mass graves, etc.
There is light at the end of the tunnel, I'm sure, but we won't see it for a while. Everything happening now is probably not even close to the peak. After a couple of quieter days, the UK has hit its highest death total for a day.
And I guess cabin fever is setting in, because the scenes where they have to wear the wrist bands after they get vaccinated, and aren't allowed to go anywhere or buy anything without them, got me thinking about the whole New World Order conspiracy theories doing the rounds. Get everyone sick. Make them believe that this is the new way we need to live under constant control for our own safety, and then give them the cure. Bill Gates contributes more to the WHO than the UK - why? Because he wants to be philanthropic? Or because it buys him a seat at one of the most powerful tables in the world. Somewhere someone didn't realise that 1984 was meant to be a warning, not a guide.
It's demonstrably more infectious than seasonal flu, with a10x higher kill rate. You cant say with the world really only having experienced this from March that its better than a years worth of flu. In addition, the point is not only about how severe this specific virus is - it is rather its impact on healthcare systems and putting them in a position whereby they cannot cope, thus causing issues for EVERYONE that is dependent on said healthcare system irrespective of condition they happen to have. If the infection rate/death rate do not exceed flu it will be because of the action governments around the world have taken. I cant understand how this is still difficult to understand.....
Ah so now you also know all the languages I speak. Your knowledge knows no bounds, I am truly humbled. Perhaps you could still grace us google translate plebs with the source
No. The EU did not co-ordinate a response. Each nation followed their own. Some countries shut borders first and instituted social distancing while others went with business as usual and just banned large gatherings. When push comes to shove, EU is weak and indecisive.
www.sport24.co.za
www.healthbridge.co.za
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