International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 2

noxibox

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True, sometimes when I look around , I think 90% of the women in SA are overweight , men not as much...
Overweight is not obese. Combining the two categories is done purely to inflate the numbers for the purposes of propaganda. They don't generally state the numbers for obesity because they tend to be fairly low and that doesn't fit the narrative. There's very limited health concerns associated with being so-called overweight. Plus there are potential benefits in the face of serious illness. But those facts don't fit the narrative.
 

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Overweight is not obese. Combining the two categories is done purely to inflate the numbers for the purposes of propaganda. They don't generally state the numbers for obesity because they tend to be fairly low and that doesn't fit the narrative. There's very limited health concerns associated with being so-called overweight. Plus there are potential benefits in the face of serious illness. But those facts don't fit the narrative.
 

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Overweight is not obese. Combining the two categories is done purely to inflate the numbers for the purposes of propaganda. They don't generally state the numbers for obesity because they tend to be fairly low and that doesn't fit the narrative. There's very limited health concerns associated with being so-called overweight. Plus there are potential benefits in the face of serious illness. But those facts don't fit the narrative.
What narrative? Obese and overweight , both increase the danger from Covid, it just scales up.
It's like saying that people who smoke less than 5 cigarettes a day , don't count as a smokers.
 
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Overweight is not obese. Combining the two categories is done purely to inflate the numbers for the purposes of propaganda. They don't generally state the numbers for obesity because they tend to be fairly low and that doesn't fit the narrative. There's very limited health concerns associated with being so-called overweight. Plus there are potential benefits in the face of serious illness. But those facts don't fit the narrative.
It comes after Public Health England research found that being overweight or obese puts people at greater risk of serious illness or death from Covid-19.
 

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noxibox

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Obese and overweight , both increase the danger from Covid, it just scales up.
I'd love to see the graphs. If it follows the trend of other causes of death then those in the lower "overweight" category have the same risk of death as those in the lower to mid "healthy" category. So just point me to the numbers as I'd like to see the different degrees of danger for each level from low "healthy" up through to the highest degree of morbidly obese.
 

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This virus shold be weakening because of imperfect RNA replication. It is the way the spanish flu died out. Then again, it may become even stronger as it adapts to humans more perfectly.
 

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This virus shold be weakening because of imperfect RNA replication. It is the way the spanish flu died out. Then again, it may become even stronger as it adapts to humans more perfectly.
Firstly Spanish Flu was H1N1 influenza not a Coronavirus, secondly it died out as people died or became immune to that strain.
 

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Just read a feature article about the dismal Indian response (yes they have a low death rate compared to their population but massive undercounting of deaths is suspected due to political pressure).

Guess what? Like SA, they also had a hard lockdown, except this was only for three weeks, but like SA, was done when there were a minimal number of reported infections (about 550).
 

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Most bizarrely of all, when researchers tested blood samples taken years before the pandemic started, they found T cells which were specifically tailored to detect proteins on the surface of Covid-19. This suggests that some people already had a pre-existing degree of resistance against the virus before it ever infected a human. And it appears to be surprisingly prevalent: 40-60% of unexposed individuals had these cells.
 

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So if 40 to 60% of people had these t-cells that's a pretty high number, and probably explains why most people don't experience any symptoms.
 

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So if 40 to 60% of people had these t-cells that's a pretty high number, and probably explains why most people don't experience any symptoms.
Yes, my only problem was the study size, 20 people only.

And if you read further , unlike the T-cells associated with influenza , the Covid ones don't survive 'old age.
Also people who get very sick, have mysterious damage of the spleen, where T-cells should be the highest.
 
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