International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 2

[buka001]

No it doesn't have a higher mortality rate. We don't know the mortality rate, we know it's CFR. Also the coronavirus has been around just as long, SARs and MERS are also Coronavirus.
15% of the common colds are Coronavirus, this is just a new strain.

It does.

CDC, WHO and health organisations of various governments all around the world have verified this.

You cannot compare worldwide flu deaths to coronavirus deaths, as the coronavirus has not infected every area of every region the world over, like the flu has.

Please phone the director of the CDC a d present your scientific analysis.

Top US health official says the coronavirus is 10 times 'more lethal' than the seasonal flu

"I can say we will see more cases and things will get worse than they are right now," said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

www.cnbc.com

 

[Lupus]

Singapore has stopped it. Hong Kong has stopped it. China is ending it, only 30 cases yesterday. They stopped it by doing what they did.

Swine flu pandemic was declared over in 2010. Odd minor outbreak since, but nothing major. This was stopped by the actions taken back then.

You are the one dreaming.

H1N1 from 2009 killed over 500 000 in a year, analysis later indicated that it was actually no worse than normal flu, yet the media than hyped it up a bit.
Technically the H1N1 Spanish Flu wasn't any more virulent than normal, but due to the world conditions at the time it created the time bomb that it become.

 

[buka001]

Firstly flu has been around a long time, Coronavirus has been around a long time as well. So far in 3 months it's killed 7000 people. That in the long run isn't that many.

3 months is not a long time when you compare it to a virus that has been around for 70+ years.

 

[The Voice]

BEEEEGGGG government stimulus all around !

Japan - $193 billion
Spain - €200 bn (largest spending package since Spain became a democracy 40 years ago)
UK - £330 billion
Italy - €340 billion
France - €547 bn
Germany - €550bn
USA - $850bn package

Significant. 15% of UK GDP. Apart from the obvious ones like the airlines and airports, it also helps the hospitality industry, which probably employs half of Europe at the moment.

 

[dualmeister]

Italy: +3526 new cases,
+345 new deaths.

Still no evidence containment procedures are working but we possibly need to wait another week.

Jees. Those guys getting nailed

 

[gottagoon]

Ignorance is bliss. Party on. As long as food and drink is free....drink and eat it all. Who died? Can't remember. But the party was good.

 

[buka001]

Italy: +3526 new cases,
+345 new deaths.

Still no evidence containment procedures are working but we possibly need to wait another week.

They isolated too late. People were infected already by the time they isolated.

 

[Pitbull]

CDC, WHO and health organisations of various governments all around the world have verified this.

There is no way they know how many have it. They only know who tested positive...

 

[buka001]

H1N1 from 2009 killed over 500 000 in a year, analysis later indicated that it was actually no worse than normal flu, yet the media than hyped it up a bit.
Technically the H1N1 Spanish Flu wasn't any more virulent than normal, but due to the world conditions at the time it created the time bomb that it become.

Yes and guess what condition slowed down the 1918 flu ...

 

[Pitbull]

Yes and guess what condition slowed down the 1918 flu ...

What is the mortality rate for South Korea on Covid-19?

 

[buka001]

There is no way they know how many have it. They only know who tested positive...

Of the people they test positive they know it kills them 10 times higher than the rate at which normal flu kills people.

Phone the director of the CDC and present your study on the matter to prove him wrong.

 

[Unhappy438]

Sorry but nope, won't happen. You would like it to be the case, but sadly it will probably similar if you have a bigger sample group. But alas... Logic, fails you. Go dig your bunker or something

Thats exactly what will happen and the information the UK and US governments are now following - https://www.boston.com/news/nationa...akes-new-line-after-dire-report-on-death-toll

Why would Trump and Boris who have been trying to perpetuate the fake news youre doing now risk their political futures at this point otherwise?

 

[Jings]

Sorry been busy and missed a lot of pages.

Found out this afternoon the employer's India offices are in crisis mode and there is chaos outside. Weird that their count is low.

People sick and they've started to place heavy restrictions. Not sure they have the situation under control. Hopefully they can still fix it before monsoon season starts in May.

 

[Pitbull]

Of the people they test positive they know it kills them 10 times higher than the rate at which normal flu kills people.

Phone the director of the CDC and present your study on the matter to prove him wrong.

I'll ask you again, what is the mortality rate in South Korea?

 

[Lupus]

It does.

CDC, WHO and health organisations of various governments all around the world have verified this.

You cannot compare worldwide flu deaths to coronavirus deaths, as the coronavirus has not infected every area of every region the world over, like the flu has.

Please phone the director of the CDC a d present your scientific analysis.

Top US health official says the coronavirus is 10 times 'more lethal' than the seasonal flu

"I can say we will see more cases and things will get worse than they are right now," said Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

www.cnbc.com

It's going to spread and as it's spread things are going to change.
CFRs will fluctuate, mortality rates can be worked out properly, even now 94% have mild to no symptoms while only 6% are serious to critical. That a month ago was more in the 80s for mild cases.
Italy is known to have a high mortality rate in flu seasons, 68 000 in 2013 and 2016? A lot of the people who are dying from this would've more than likely died from the flu looking at history.

 

[rietrot]

Italy: +3526 new cases,
+345 new deaths.

Still no evidence containment procedures are working but we possibly need to wait another week.

The new cases seem stuck on 3500. Max testing capacity?

 

[Unhappy438]

Italy: +3526 new cases,
+345 new deaths.

Still no evidence containment procedures are working but we possibly need to wait another week.

Daily percentage increase has been going down so that's not true.

 

[Lupus]

3 months is not a long time when you compare it to a virus that has been around for 70+ years.

Wow okay you've honestly got no idea about diseases.
Influenza aka the flu are a family of viruses, there are many many different strains.
Coronaviruses are a family of viruses, there are many many different strains. CoV SARS2 notice the 2, which means it's a sequel, as there was a 1 which was called MERS.
It's not new, it's a new strain that's all. That's why they figured out what it was in a few days, unlike other new viruses that takes months to years.

 

[buka001]

What is the mortality rate for South Korea on Covid-19?

1%

South Korea is doing what you say they shouldn't. They did it early on. Test 10 000 people per day. Isolation and quarantine.

Because of this the age groups in SK that were more affected were 20-29 and 30-39, who are more resilient to the virus.

Italy and Spain did not do this and consequently the older population has been exposed more. Hence they have higher death rates.

That is why what Boris and Donald Trump are doing will help to end this and lower the death toll and it is not a hysterical reaction.

 

[Markd]

You have to be living with your head in the sand to think that COVID-19 is the equivalent of the flu. While the flu kills 0.2-0.6% of people who catch it, this coronavirus is hitting 4-8% while also spreading like wildfire. So while "60,000" people who die from the flu in a year sounds like a relatively big number, its nothing if COVID-19 isn't brought under control. We could go into millions of deaths, which is hard for some people to fathom, I know.

The reason for the extreme measures is per some of the above posts on 'leveling' the spread out/slowing it down. All this does is enable goverments to actually cope with the number of people who are being affected and reduce the overall number of people who are dieng. As it stands place like Italy will run out of beds, equipment etc. and have to make a call on who they treat.

None of this is rocket science.