International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 2

[Pitbull]

1%

Why do you think that is?

 

[buka001]

Wow okay you've honestly got no idea about diseases.
Influenza aka the flu are a family of viruses, there are many many different strains.
Coronaviruses are a family of viruses, there are many many different strains. CoV SARS2 notice the 2, which means it's a sequel, as there was a 1 which was called MERS.
It's not new, it's a new strain that's all. That's why they figured out what it was in a few days, unlike other new viruses that takes months to years.

It is a new strain so that strain has been around for 3 months.

 

[buka001]

Why do you think that is?

The rest of my post says so. Or did you not read it. Answer that.

 

[Unhappy438]

Wow okay you've honestly got no idea about diseases.

Probably not, which is why he follows the advice of the experts and not rando Lupus from the internet.

 

[Lupus]

It is a new strain so that strain has been around for 3 months.

Yes and guess what happens with influenza, new strains come and go. Hence why you need a new flu vaccine every year.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Daily percentage increase has been going down so that's not true.

But the absolute number hasn't been doing down. Stuck at 3500. Also, we don't know if Italy has hit its testing capacity.

 

[Unhappy438]

But the absolute number hasn't been doing down. Stuck at 3500. Also, we don't know if Italy has hit its testing capacity.

Thats how these curves work, China worked at flattening the curve by first reducing the percentage increase. If percentage increase goes down each day then the absolute number will eventually follow. Testing capacity is just speculation, unless you have evidence that suggests otherwise?

 

[Pegasus]

The campaign continues.

And it’s mostly leftist China supporting news.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1239957782125662208

 

[buka001]

Yes and guess what happens with influenza, new strains come and go. Hence why you need a new flu vaccine every year.

So the annual number of deaths you like to conflate the subject with.

Break those up per strain.

 

[Lupus]

You have to be living with your head in the sand to think that COVID-19 is the equivalent of the flu. While the flu kills 0.2-0.6% of people who catch it, this coronavirus is hitting 4-8% while also spreading like wildfire. So while "60,000" people who die from the flu in a year sounds like a relatively big number, its nothing if COVID-19 isn't brought under control. We could go into millions of deaths, which is hard for some people to fathom, I know.

The reason for the extreme measures is per some of the above posts on 'leveling' the spread out/slowing it down. All this does is enable goverments to actually cope with the number of people who are being affected and reduce the overall number of people who are dieng. As it stands place like Italy will run out of beds, equipment etc. and have to make a call on who they treat.

None of this is rocket science.

600 000, not 60 000. Also if it was spreading like wildfire why are there only 194 729 cases since December 2019. That's almost 4 months world wide, while 36 million have had influenza in the US alone, with 370k hospitalised and 22000 deaths in the US alone.
So how is this disease spreading faster if one country has had more infections and deaths in the same time period?

 

[yebocan]

US, UK coronavirus strategies shifted following UK epidemiologists' ominous report

A study by UK epidemiologists predicts that attempts to slow, or mitigate -- rather than actively halt, or suppress -- the novel coronavirus could overwhelm the number of intensive care hospital beds and lead to about 250,000 deaths in the UK and more than a million in the United States during the course of the current pandemic.

US, UK coronavirus strategies shifted following UK epidemiologists' ominous report

A study by UK epidemiologists predicts that attempts to slow, or mitigate -- rather than actively halt, or suppress -- the novel coronavirus could overwhelm the number of intensive care hospital beds and lead to about 250,000 deaths in the UK and more than a million in the United States during...

edition.cnn.com

fck me

 

[Lupus]

So the annual number of deaths you like to conflate the subject with.

Break those up per strain.

Currently it seems the US is being hit by both A and B

The 2019-2020 flu season, charted

Flu activity is still widespread throughout most of the country, with at least 34 million people contracting the flu as of Feb. 29, according to the latest CDC report.

www.advisory.com

This has been the worst season for kids this year as well in the last ten years, if we look back ten years it was the last flu pandemic.
The good thing about this Coronavirus is that it's changing things in the world, perhaps there will be more remote work now, less pollution due to this helping traffic and such. It's a pity the economies of the world are tanking.

 

[The_Librarian]

Just what the F is going on in India? @Jings

 

[2023]

perhaps there will be more remote work now

That is going to be an interesting discussion in a months time. If you can keep your productivity up, I wonder how the bosses are going to take it or convince people to come back to the office.

 

[The_Librarian]

That is going to be an interesting discussion in a months time. If you can keep your productivity up, I wonder how the bosses are going to take it or convince people to come back to the office.

Will be very difficult to convince them to come back.

Playing the cards right, let productivity tank a bit when going back to the office....

 

[buka001]

That is going to be an interesting discussion in a months time. If you can keep your productivity up, I wonder how the bosses are going to take it or convince people to come back to the office.

The best thing will be the end to those motherfckrs who have meetings to have a meeting and plan the next meeting. Yes France, I am looking at you.

 

[Pitbull]

The rest of my post says so. Or did you not read it. Answer that.

No, you wanted to preempt what you assumed I will be asking you.

Anyway, I'll just jump right in since you seem to not want to answer the questions outright.

SK has a population of roughly the same as ours, 50 odd million. They did a total of 190k tests and found 7k odd infections with 51 deaths (give or take a few).

So out of the 50m they tested 0.38% of the population and found an infection rate of 3.68% out of that infection count, 0.72% actually died.

Now irrespective of the infection numbers, the sample size if big enough to give you a suitable trajectory. Let's assume 100% of the population is tested:

1 840 000 would effectively be infected, of which 13 248 would die. (Again, maybe more maybe less however the sample size is the biggest we've got on record)

However you try and compare Italy who has done less than a 3rd of the amount of tests SK did, but choose to use their death rate? And Italy actually has a higher population count than SK...

Anyway, go back to building your bunker. We'll have this discussion again in 2 years and I'll point and laugh

 

[Markd]

600 000, not 60 000. Also if it was spreading like wildfire why are there only 194 729 cases since December 2019. That's almost 4 months world wide, while 36 million have had influenza in the US alone, with 370k hospitalised and 22000 deaths in the US alone.
So how is this disease spreading faster if one country has had more infections and deaths in the same time period?

Do us a favour and go and educate yourself on how diseases spread exponentially (as we are starting to see) if not controlled/slowed down. Then take into account the much higher kill rate of this coronavirus. If after this time you still can't work it out then I can't help you any further.

 

[Sl8er]

US, UK coronavirus strategies shifted following UK epidemiologists' ominous report

A study by UK epidemiologists predicts that attempts to slow, or mitigate -- rather than actively halt, or suppress -- the novel coronavirus could overwhelm the number of intensive care hospital beds and lead to about 250,000 deaths in the UK and more than a million in the United States during the course of the current pandemic.

US, UK coronavirus strategies shifted following UK epidemiologists' ominous report

A study by UK epidemiologists predicts that attempts to slow, or mitigate -- rather than actively halt, or suppress -- the novel coronavirus could overwhelm the number of intensive care hospital beds and lead to about 250,000 deaths in the UK and more than a million in the United States during...

edition.cnn.com

fck me

"Just flu, bro."
"I couldn't be arsed "



And watch now, if everyone works together and stems this virus, the pitbulls and the lupus's are going to turn around and be like, "See, bro, it wasn't so bad , "
not realizing that if the governments didn't do what they did, it would've been worse...much worse...like by multitudes.
In fact, it may still be...even with all the precautionary measures.
Only time will tell.
Hope for the best, prepare for the worst.

 

[Lupus]

That is going to be an interesting discussion in a months time. If you can keep your productivity up, I wonder how the bosses are going to take it or convince people to come back to the office.

Would be cool, cause a lot of jobs don't need to be in the office 40 hours a week.