International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 2

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Drifter

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Swiss hospitals face collapse in 10 days if virus keeps spreading



ZURICH (Reuters) - Switzerland’s health care system could collapse by the end of the month if the new coronavirus keeps spreading at current rates, a government official warned on Tuesday.

Swiss authorities estimated that 2,650 people had tested positive for the coronavirus and said 19 people had died, while predicting cases will likely soar in the weeks ahead.

Exact figures were unavailable. Daniel Koch, head of the Federal Office of Health’s communicable diseases division, said the rapid rise had outstripped the state’s ability to record new cases in real time.


Koch urged residents to observe strict emergency measures ordered this week, including bans on events and gatherings, calling these critical in limiting the damage and protecting hospitals from a potential collapse.

“People who become infected today will only hit us in 10 days from now,” Koch said at a news conference. “We have to make sure the infection rate goes down today, because otherwise, in 10 days (Swiss hospitals) won’t be able to handle it.”

Switzerland has mobilised up to 8,000 military members to assist civil authorities and medical personnel.

More here : https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...PT_AVKcBSI2lAPLdkOhhHbl_2CWvMyDJdyEM62iUgnGkw
 

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Awww, Gauteng best at everything again
There are some statistics that I would wish weren't the case. The reality is that being this populous and economically active, this sort of thing will come back to bit GP in the butt.
 

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Switzerland’s health care system could collapse by the end of the month if the new coronavirus keeps spreading at current rates, a government official warned on Tuesday.
You would think that there is a case for new hospitals built (like the Chinese have done) in the EU, run by the EU, that cater for their people. Every person for themselves is going to backfire. Alternatively, ship them to China and use their new hospitals.

:unsure:
 

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Swiss hospitals face collapse in 10 days if virus keeps spreading



ZURICH (Reuters) - Switzerland’s health care system could collapse by the end of the month if the new coronavirus keeps spreading at current rates, a government official warned on Tuesday.

Swiss authorities estimated that 2,650 people had tested positive for the coronavirus and said 19 people had died, while predicting cases will likely soar in the weeks ahead.

Exact figures were unavailable. Daniel Koch, head of the Federal Office of Health’s communicable diseases division, said the rapid rise had outstripped the state’s ability to record new cases in real time.


Koch urged residents to observe strict emergency measures ordered this week, including bans on events and gatherings, calling these critical in limiting the damage and protecting hospitals from a potential collapse.

“People who become infected today will only hit us in 10 days from now,” Koch said at a news conference. “We have to make sure the infection rate goes down today, because otherwise, in 10 days (Swiss hospitals) won’t be able to handle it.”

Switzerland has mobilised up to 8,000 military members to assist civil authorities and medical personnel.

More here : https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...PT_AVKcBSI2lAPLdkOhhHbl_2CWvMyDJdyEM62iUgnGkw
Social distancing started too late.

People are sick, don't realise it and continue to interact with many people. The virus continues its spread.

The effects of social distancing, if done right take 20 odd days to be realised. Until then the numbers go up, as more cases are identified. Depending on how many people were actually sick at the time determines how the curve flattens.
 

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See back when there were only 44k cases it was only 80.9% that were mild, now that we're close to 200 000 it's 94%
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As more people are shown to have had it, the more the mild condition will go down or up.
What? No. You're making your own assumption here.

Worldometer's data doesn't tell the whole story. There isn't a breakdown in their data in the "Mild" cases to show how many of the mildly infected end up going to hospital and are discharged. "Requiring hospitalisation" means a lot of things, and that 6% are going to be the ones put in a medically induced coma with respirators in order to survive, or urgent dialysis, or some thing similar. "Requiring hospitalisation" could be the numbers of people getting booked in for two or three days for a chest X-ray, medication, and monitoring.

There isn't even information available in their data to show how many people have a serious condition like pneumonia who are recovering from it at home in self isolation. Or from diarrhoea. Or high fevers. Or hypoxia. Or encephalitis.

6% of active cases are serious or critical tallies with the number of people in the Wuhan study who were in critical condition (exacerbated by Italy and Iran's numbers which both have a sizeable elderly population being left by the wayside due to triage).
 

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Swiss hospitals face collapse in 10 days if virus keeps spreading



ZURICH (Reuters) - Switzerland’s health care system could collapse by the end of the month if the new coronavirus keeps spreading at current rates, a government official warned on Tuesday.

Swiss authorities estimated that 2,650 people had tested positive for the coronavirus and said 19 people had died, while predicting cases will likely soar in the weeks ahead.

Exact figures were unavailable. Daniel Koch, head of the Federal Office of Health’s communicable diseases division, said the rapid rise had outstripped the state’s ability to record new cases in real time.


Koch urged residents to observe strict emergency measures ordered this week, including bans on events and gatherings, calling these critical in limiting the damage and protecting hospitals from a potential collapse.

“People who become infected today will only hit us in 10 days from now,” Koch said at a news conference. “We have to make sure the infection rate goes down today, because otherwise, in 10 days (Swiss hospitals) won’t be able to handle it.”

Switzerland has mobilised up to 8,000 military members to assist civil authorities and medical personnel.

More here : https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...PT_AVKcBSI2lAPLdkOhhHbl_2CWvMyDJdyEM62iUgnGkw

Just typical flu potentially collapsing health care systems
 

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What? No. You're making your own assumption here.

Worldometer's data doesn't tell the whole story. There isn't a breakdown in their data in the "Mild" cases to show how many of the mildly infected end up going to hospital and are discharged. "Requiring hospitalisation" means a lot of things, and that 6% are going to be the ones put in a medically induced coma with respirators in order to survive, or urgent dialysis, or some thing similar. "Requiring hospitalisation" could be the numbers of people getting booked in for two or three days for a chest X-ray, medication, and monitoring.

There isn't even information available in their data to show how many people have a serious condition like pneumonia who are recovering from it at home in self isolation. Or from diarrhoea. Or high fevers. Or hypoxia. Or encephalitis.

6% of active cases are serious or critical tallies with the number of people in the Wuhan study who were in critical condition (exacerbated by Italy and Iran's numbers which both have a sizeable elderly population being left by the wayside due to triage).

You were wrong, and used old data.

Simple as that. Take it and move on.
 

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What? No. You're making your own assumption here.

Worldometer's data doesn't tell the whole story. There isn't a breakdown in their data in the "Mild" cases to show how many of the mildly infected end up going to hospital and are discharged. "Requiring hospitalisation" means a lot of things, and that 6% are going to be the ones put in a medically induced coma with respirators in order to survive, or urgent dialysis, or some thing similar. "Requiring hospitalisation" could be the numbers of people getting booked in for two or three days for a chest X-ray, medication, and monitoring.

There isn't even information available in their data to show how many people have a serious condition like pneumonia who are recovering from it at home in self isolation. Or from diarrhoea. Or high fevers. Or hypoxia. Or encephalitis.

6% of active cases are serious or critical tallies with the number of people in the Wuhan study who were in critical condition (exacerbated by Italy and Iran's numbers which both have a sizeable elderly population being left by the wayside due to triage).
Also, as we are seeing in the UK, testing of everyone who presents with symptoms is going down. The Chief Medical Officer said actual UK numbers could be as high as 55 000. So the numbers under represent the actual numbers of infected.
 

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Swiss hospitals face collapse in 10 days if virus keeps spreading



ZURICH (Reuters) - Switzerland’s health care system could collapse by the end of the month if the new coronavirus keeps spreading at current rates, a government official warned on Tuesday.

Swiss authorities estimated that 2,650 people had tested positive for the coronavirus and said 19 people had died, while predicting cases will likely soar in the weeks ahead.

Exact figures were unavailable. Daniel Koch, head of the Federal Office of Health’s communicable diseases division, said the rapid rise had outstripped the state’s ability to record new cases in real time.


Koch urged residents to observe strict emergency measures ordered this week, including bans on events and gatherings, calling these critical in limiting the damage and protecting hospitals from a potential collapse.

“People who become infected today will only hit us in 10 days from now,” Koch said at a news conference. “We have to make sure the infection rate goes down today, because otherwise, in 10 days (Swiss hospitals) won’t be able to handle it.”

Switzerland has mobilised up to 8,000 military members to assist civil authorities and medical personnel.

More here : https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...PT_AVKcBSI2lAPLdkOhhHbl_2CWvMyDJdyEM62iUgnGkw

Flu, bro. The Swiss must stop being hysterical.
 

thestaggy

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Yip, 100%.

Are the hospital currently overburdened? No.

So less crying, more working.

Thankfully we have people trying to prevent this and not the 'Just Flu' Bros calling the shots.

“People who become infected today will only hit us in 10 days from now,” Koch said at a news conference. “We have to make sure the infection rate goes down today, because otherwise, in 10 days (Swiss hospitals) won’t be able to handle it.”
 

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Thankfully we have people trying to prevent this and not the 'Just Flu' Bros calling the shots.

You can quote the same stupid thing all day long.

Does the hospitals have the capacity to serve today's needs? Yes.
Now get back to work and stop crying.
 

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Swiss hospitals face collapse in 10 days if virus keeps spreading



ZURICH (Reuters) - Switzerland’s health care system could collapse by the end of the month if the new coronavirus keeps spreading at current rates, a government official warned on Tuesday.

Swiss authorities estimated that 2,650 people had tested positive for the coronavirus and said 19 people had died, while predicting cases will likely soar in the weeks ahead.

Exact figures were unavailable. Daniel Koch, head of the Federal Office of Health’s communicable diseases division, said the rapid rise had outstripped the state’s ability to record new cases in real time.


Koch urged residents to observe strict emergency measures ordered this week, including bans on events and gatherings, calling these critical in limiting the damage and protecting hospitals from a potential collapse.

“People who become infected today will only hit us in 10 days from now,” Koch said at a news conference. “We have to make sure the infection rate goes down today, because otherwise, in 10 days (Swiss hospitals) won’t be able to handle it.”

Switzerland has mobilised up to 8,000 military members to assist civil authorities and medical personnel.

More here : https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...PT_AVKcBSI2lAPLdkOhhHbl_2CWvMyDJdyEM62iUgnGkw
Stupidity from humans. Why are you rushing to the hospital?
I have to go to the doctor today for a sprained finger. Now you can not get in because everybody is hysterical.
 

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You can quote the same stupid thing all day long.

Does the hospitals have the capacity to serve today's needs? Yes.
Now get back to work and stop crying.

So you are one of those people that when your house starts burning will say "Meh, its just a curtains corner, I can still get into the house and everything is fine, no need to worry about it now"
 
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