International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 2

[Pitbull]

Basic logic entails that as the confirmed cases rise so too will the severe and critical cases, the ones that will require hospitilisation.

Impossible to gauge exact number as it depends on the make-up of those infected. But going by current numbers, around 6% need hospitalisation.

So as at 2 500 you will have about 150 that needs hospitlisation give or take. Let's double that to 5k cases, 300 people. double that, 10k - 600 people. However, as stats have been showing, the more positives you get, the lower the rate that requires medical intervention or hospitlisation.

But hey, whatever rocks your boat

 

[Itsa Trap]

Age does not come into it..

But it might come on it.

 

[Temujin]

No need, I'll be fine, just like about 94% of those infected.

Not downplaying covid, it is worse than flu etc, but reality is that 94% is going to skyrocket over coming weeks with US rolling out millions of tests etc. Gonna be lucky if the severe/hospitalised cases breaks the 1% mark, which is good, will reduce the panic

 

[buka001]

Impossible to gauge exact number as it depends on the make-up of those infected. But going by current numbers, around 6% need hospitalisation.

So as at 2 500 you will have about 150 that needs hospitlisation give or take. Let's double that to 5k cases, 300 people. double that, 10k - 600 people. However, as stats have been showing, the more positives you get, the lower the rate that requires medical intervention or hospitlisation.

But hey, whatever rocks your boat

Italy would love to have a word with you.

Especially Bergamo. They have no more beds and are triaging patients. Older ones being sent home to die, as the chance of them recovering is lower.

Will you call the Italian Embassy today and offer your research to them to help them out?

 

[Pitbull]

Not downplaying covid, it is worse than flu etc, but reality is that 94% is going to skyrocket over coming weeks with US rolling out millions of tests etc. Gonna be lucky if the severe cases breaks the 1% mark, which is good, will reduce the panic

Exactly.

With around 40k positives they stood at around 20% needing medical intervention. At 200k it's down to 6%. The more they get, the less will need intervention. That is how this works. The issue is, people saw a handful of people testing positive and needing medical intervention at a higher percentage. All of a sudden the world has lost all logic

 

[Pitbull]

Italy would love to have a word with you.

Especially Bergamo. They have no more beds and are triaging patients. Older ones being sent home to die, as the chance of them recovering is lower.

Will you call the Italian Embassy today and offer your research to them to help them out?

Again with the nit-picking...

Italy has the highest average age of populous in the EU. And you know that...

Seriously... stop with the nit-picking to try and prove a point. Global stats says otherwise.

 

[buka001]

A useful insight to the pandemic, efficacy of measures adopted in Asian countries and what lies in store for the UK.

The Coronavirus Crisis: Mistake Over 'Herd Immunity' Has Cost Us Vital Time – Byline Times

Mike Buckley sets out the Government's strategy towards the COVID-19 outbreak so far and explores why its handling of it already raises much bigger questions about the country's governance – concerns which have been there all along.

bylinetimes.com

 

[SlinkyMike]

Not downplaying covid, it is worse than flu etc, but reality is that 94% is going to skyrocket over coming weeks with US rolling out millions of tests etc. Gonna be lucky if the severe/hospitalised cases breaks the 1% mark, which is good, will reduce the panic

Wish I could find it again - so much media on the topic but there was an excellent set of charts comparing Korea and Italy and the net was that Korea flattened the curve due to the amount of testing they were able to do.

Shocking response from the US trying to profit off of test kits and vaccines. What an absolute dog show.

 

[buka001]

Again with the nit-picking...

Italy has the highest average age of populous in the EU. And you know that...

Seriously... stop with the nit-picking to try and prove a point. Global stats says otherwise.

You say this as if we are near the end.

Spain will be next. They are already requisitioning private hospitals and hotels to increase capacity, as their numbers will shortly exceed that of Italy and the current capacity will be exhausted.

 

[flippakitten]

Italy would love to have a word with you.

Especially Bergamo. They have no more beds and are triaging patients. Older ones being sent home to die, as the chance of them recovering is lower.

Will you call the Italian Embassy today and offer your research to them to help them out?

I didn't think ignorance/arrogance can be classified as scientific research.

 

[Milano]

Not downplaying covid, it is worse than flu etc, but reality is that 94% is going to skyrocket over coming weeks with US rolling out millions of tests etc. Gonna be lucky if the severe/hospitalised cases breaks the 1% mark, which is good, will reduce the panic

The severe cases should in theory reduce due to lower viral load in the infected as a result of improved hygiene, social distancing and so forth. We should never know what the results would have been without such measures.

 

[Pitbull]

You say this as if we are near the end.

No, I'm saying it because that is exactly what you are doing. The more positive tests coming in from all over the globe has shown clearly the hospitilisation or medical intervention required drops extensively. You are doing EXACTLY what the media is doing.

Currently (Globally) around 6% requires medical intervention and still dropping. Stick to the facts instead of nit-picking what you see as justifying your view. It's not that hard.

 

[Nerfherder]

Coronavirus: ZCC cancels all Moria events until further notice

The Zion Christian Church (ZCC) is heeding President Cyril Ramaphosa's call for no gatherings of over 100 people due to the coronavirus pandemic.

The church cancelled its annual Moria pilgrimage which was set to take place over the Easter weekend.

It says it made the decision last week, after meeting Health Minister Zweli Mkhize.

Praise be !

 

[Milano]

No, I'm saying it because that is exactly what you are doing. The more positive tests coming in from all over the globe has shown clearly the hospitilisation or medical intervention required drops extensively.

Severity of infection is reduced by the measures in place. Lower initial viral loads mean less severe infections resulting in lower hospitalisation rates.

 

[gottagoon]

 

[Markd]

No, I'm saying it because that is exactly what you are doing. The more positive tests coming in from all over the globe has shown clearly the hospitilisation or medical intervention required drops extensively. You are doing EXACTLY what the media is doing.

Currently (Globally) around 6% requires medical intervention and still dropping. Stick to the facts instead of nit-picking what you see as justifying your view. It's not that hard.

where are you pulling your stats from? Also for a like-for-like comparison, what are the stats on the number of people with normal flu that need hospitalisation? So we can compare apples with apples here.

 

[Lupus]

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It wipes your arse on the way out.

 

[Pitbull]

where are you pulling your stats from? Also for a like-for-like comparison, what are the stats on the number of people with normal flu that need hospitalisation? So we can compare apples with apples here.

You'll find it further back in this exact thread. it wasn't even posted by myself.

 

[Pegasus]

Some info on a lady who has recovered from the Kung-flu.

Woman who recovered from coronavirus talks about initial symptoms

 

[thestaggy]

No need, I'll be fine, just like about 94% of those infected.

Lets take a look at the hospitals designated to handle this.

SA geared to deal with Coronavirus

South Africa is geared to deal with Coronavirus, Health Minister Dr Zweli Mkhize, told community members in KwaZulu-Natal’s Umngungundlovu District on Sunday.

www.sanews.gov.za

Polokwane Hospital - 200 beds https://www.netcare.co.za/InvestorReport/ar_2015/downloads/SA Hospital listing.pdf
Charlotte Maxeke - 1,088 beds according to its Wiki page.
Rob Ferreira Hospital - 369 beds https://pmg.org.za/tabled-committee-report/2660/
Grey's Hospital - 530 beds http://www.kznhealth.gov.za/Greys/tertiary_health_institution.htm
Klerksdorp Hospital - 890 beds https://conferencehasa.co.za/upload...health_outcomes_16_30-Binu_Luke_HASA_2019.pdf
Kimberley Hospital - 287 beds https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/art...-shiny-new-half-empty-mental-health-hospital/
Pelonomi Hospital - 133 beds https://www.netcare.co.za/InvestorReport/ar_2015/downloads/SA Hospital listing.pdf
Livingstone Hospital - 541 beds https://mybroadband.co.za/forum/thr...covid-19-updates-discussion-2.1074317/page-74
Tygerberg Hospital - 1384 beds https://www.iol.co.za/capeargus/news/tygerberg-hospital-must-be-shut-down-and-replaced-15357136

*These are total beds, not ICU/critical care beds, which will be much, much fewer in number.

That's not a lot of beds if things go pear-shaped and this is why people are taking precautions and looking to avert a worst case scenario.

On top of this South Africa has a shortage of critical care beds as it is. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24079628

Livingstone Hospital in the EC for example only has 11 beds in its ICU. Imagine they get whacked by this? Fvcked.