International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 2

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daveza

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Have you heard any other world leader calling it the Chinese Virus ?
 
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Azg said:
Hysterical - affected by or deriving from wildly uncontrolled emotion.

I wash my hands often, practice social distancing, would like to work from home to avoid the coronavirus - nothing "wildly uncontrolled emotion" about that. All very calculated to avoid the coronavirus. I can't see the hysteria there.

If anything the uncontrolled emotion i.e. hysteria seems to be from those who do not believe we should be worried about corona. If you are not worried move along, leave me in my worry. Your screaming and basic mortality rate calculations will not convince me that the medical experts are all wrong, to say we can not let this disease run it's natural course, unchecked.

If we come out of this unscathed I will breathe a sigh of relief that all those measures worked. Not that the anti-coronas (I don't know what to call your lot - anti-vaxxers?) were right.
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So you scared you're going to die? That's the jest of it I guess.

Sorry to inform you, you won't die. Not for Corona anyway :D
 
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daveza said:
You know me ?

If Obama said it I would call him out on it.

It's unnecessary in a time of global pandemic when everyone should be focused on a global solution, not taking cheap shots.
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And the media is feeding you all your outrage, and you fall for it hook, line and sinker every time.
 
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buka001 said:
Preliminary was the operable word there.

Remember, Boris Johnson. How well did his science age?
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Or the less charitable interpretation was that they were supressing it. Boris' science didn't change. If you actually listened carefully to the pressers he gave, he did warn of more serious measures if necessary. Yes the media made it as if the government was back peddling but that's because they weren't listening.
 
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buka001 said:
Racists will racist. Those posts are despicable.

I have seen loads of actual racism from white people directed against Asian people since this began, even the pictures of the Asian kid that was beaten up and so on. All pathetic and ridiculous.

People can be so fragile.

What it shows though, about racism, is that it is largely driven by fear. A mix of irrational fear, based on existential threats, driven by all sorts of things from cultural perceptions, propaganda, misunderstanding and misinformation.

The acceleationists are just driven by fear of some existential threat. Same as those idiots posting that detritus.
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Racism is alive and well in every sphere of society, and identity politics are making it worse.

I agree that I don't like it when Trump calls it the Chinese virus. But when the usual Anti-Trumpets come in here and cry massive tears about Trump's racism, it just rings supremely hollow. There are VERY few people on these forums that actually condemn racism across all spheres of our society. You being one of the few that will actually call it out when it's not super correct politically.

Chris_the_Brit said:
Or the less charitable interpretation was that they were supressing it. Boris' science didn't change. If you actually listened carefully to the pressers he gave, he did warn of more serious measures if necessary. Yes the media made it as if the government was back peddling but that's because they weren't listening.
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The media has even less credibility now than ever before.
 
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Pitbull said:
So you scared you're going to die? That's the jest of it I guess.

Sorry to inform you, you won't die. Not for Corona anyway :D
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80 people where I work are sick.

So I will get it, if I don't have it already. I have to come to work as I have been told I am strategic to the business. Only if I present with symptoms should I stay at home.

I am not worried, not "scared" about it or getting sick. I am fit as hell do 45 min cardio exercise everyday, in addition to the 15000 steps and 40 floors of stairs I climb per day, just for work. I am no where near the high risk age bracket, don't smoke and so on. I haven't missed a day of work to an infectious disease such as the flu in 19 years. So not worried at all.

The issue though, is unlike you, I am not a selfish pr!ck.

I could easily go to the shop, not knowing I am sick, pick up a shopping basket, buy some stuff and leave.

Just afterwards the usual retirement home bus arrives. A WW2 veteran picks up the basket I used. The guy survived the motherfckn Nazis.

He gets it and infects 30 other pensioners.

They all die.

All because social distancing and other measures, which you say are hysterical, that are proven to work in such outbreaks, were not put in place.
 
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Chris_the_Brit said:
Or the less charitable interpretation was that they were supressing it. Boris' science didn't change. If you actually listened carefully to the pressers he gave, he did warn of more serious measures if necessary. Yes the media made it as if the government was back peddling but that's because they weren't listening.
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The CMO said it changed.

The government has always said it is following the science and the science has changed profoundly.
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www.bbc.co.uk

Analysis: UK changes course amid death toll fears

Ministers were warned hundreds of thousands of people in the UK would die without stronger measures.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

In the original model they used the incorrect virus. The remodelling with the correct data made them realise they were wrong and it was more serious and and they had to adopt the social distancing.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1239669605586604032

More on how Boris was wrong, from the editor of the medical journal, The Lancet.

The Coronavirus Crisis: Mistake Over 'Herd Immunity' Has Cost Us Vital Time – Byline Times

Mike Buckley sets out the Government's strategy towards the COVID-19 outbreak so far and explores why its handling of it already raises much bigger questions about the country's governance – concerns which have been there all along.
bylinetimes.com bylinetimes.com
 
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Emjay said:
Racism is alive and well in every sphere of society, and identity politics are making it worse.

I agree that I don't like it when Trump calls it the Chinese virus. But when the usual Anti-Trumpets come in here and cry massive tears about Trump's racism, it just rings supremely hollow. There are VERY few people on these forums that actually condemn racism across all spheres of our society. You being one of the few that will actually call it out when it's not super correct politically.



The media has even less credibility now than ever before.
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Like Morgan Freeman once said, if you want to get rid of racism, just stop talking about it all the time. The world has become obsessed with it, and people are now finding racism where it doesn't even exist. It's the ultimate conversation killer, along with "bigot", and anything ending in "phobe".

Now, as already requested in the other thread that was locked down, if everyone could stop the bun fight and keep on topic, that would be great.
 
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