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Back in February India assumed it had beaten the pandemic, and prematurely lifted restrictions:
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Covid-19: How India failed to prevent a deadly second wave

India's government and parts of the media ignored warnings about a rising wave of cases, experts say.
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Since a peak of more than 93,000 cases per day on average in mid-September, infections had steadily declined. By mid-February, India was counting an average of 11,000 cases a day. The seven-day rolling average of daily deaths from the disease had slid to below 100.
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The euphoria at beating the virus had been building since late last year. Politicians, policy makers and parts of the media believed that India was truly out of the woods. In December, central bank officials announced that India was "bending the Covid infection curve". There was evidence, they said, in poetic terms, that the economy was "breaking out amidst winter's lengthening shadows towards a place in sunlight". Mr Modi was called a "vaccine guru".
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At the end of February, India's election authorities announced key elections in five states where 186 million people were eligible to vote for 824 seats. Beginning 27 March, the polls would stretch over a month, and in the case of the state of West Bengal, be held in eight phases. Campaigning had begun in full swing, with no safety protocols and social distancing. In mid-March, the cricket board allowed more than 130,000 fans, mostly unmasked, to watch two international cricket games between India and England at the Narendra Modi stadium in Gujarat.
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[quoteExperts now say that crowing about India's exceptionalism in "beating" the epidemic - younger population, native immunity, a largely rural population - and declaring victory on the virus turned out to be cruelly premature. "As is typical in India, official arrogance, hyper-nationalism, populism and an ample dose of bureaucratic incompetence have combined to create a crisis," said Mihir Sharma, a columnist for Bloomberg.[/quote]
India's second wave was fuelled by people letting their guard down, attending weddings and social gatherings, and by mixed messaging from the government, allowing political rallies and religious gatherings. With infections declining, fewer people were taking the jabs, slowing down the vaccination drive, which had aimed to inoculate 250 million people by the end of July. In mid-February, Bhramar Mukherjee, a biostatistician at the University of Michigan, tweeted that India needed to "accelerate the vaccination drive while the case counts are low". Nobody quite took notice.
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Gordon_R said:
Back in February India assumed it had beaten the pandemic, and prematurely lifted restrictions:
www.bbc.com

Covid-19: How India failed to prevent a deadly second wave

India's government and parts of the media ignored warnings about a rising wave of cases, experts say.
www.bbc.com



[quoteExperts now say that crowing about India's exceptionalism in "beating" the epidemic - younger population, native immunity, a largely rural population - and declaring victory on the virus turned out to be cruelly premature. "As is typical in India, official arrogance, hyper-nationalism, populism and an ample dose of bureaucratic incompetence have combined to create a crisis," said Mihir Sharma, a columnist for Bloomberg.
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Considering their case numbers, they have a remarkably low mortality count. Unless they are accurate with their case count, but not honest about the death count
 
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Geoff.D said:
Close the beaches, parks, and stop walkings dogs. Lock everyone in their homes. Beat and shoot those in their yards.
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It was fine, I could go out into my garden, lay in the sun and soak up the rays, my study gets a fair bit of sun as well, far more then my stuff office at the well office :)
 
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Don't know what other parts of the UK were like over the weekend, but London and the SW were ****ed. The amount of people about in towns, etc, looked like Christmas Eve. Funniest thing I saw was people lined up outside a gellato shop literally all standing next to each other, no masks, no social distancing. I hope that ice cream was worth it, buddy! Same thing with most pubs being way over capacity.

I kind of knew all along that it was probably all going to go out of the window once they opened the doors, but I wasn't expecting this. We'll be locked down again in a few weeks - you saw it here first.
 
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Don't know what other parts of the UK were like over the weekend, but London and the SW were ****ed. The amount of people about in towns, etc, looked like Christmas Eve. Funniest thing I saw was people lined up outside a gellato shop literally all standing next to each other, no masks, no social distancing. I hope that ice cream was worth it, buddy! Same thing with most pubs being way over capacity.

I kind of knew all along that it was probably all going to go out of the window once they opened the doors, but I wasn't expecting this. We'll be locked down again in a few weeks - you saw it here first.
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Blame your government, not your fellow citizens for being people.
 
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Blame your government, not your fellow citizens for being people.
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Common sense still isn't all that common, it seems (speaking about locals, not you, btw).

The government has NOT said anything about stopping social distancing measures, mask wearing, etc. This is purely stupidity on the part of people wanting to do their own thing again, reminiscent of the weeks before the very first lockdown.
 
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Common sense still isn't all that common, it seems (speaking about locals, not you, btw).

The government has NOT said anything about stopping social distancing measures, mask wearing, etc. This is purely stupidity on the part of people wanting to do their own thing again, reminiscent of the weeks before the very first lockdown.
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What I meant is the heavy handed lockdown approach will inevitably result in people going over board when they are finally let out. I meant that governments around the world create these situations by forcing social animals to isolate themselves, often needlessly, or in an over-reaching way eg. preventing people from socialising outdoors, which is proven to be safe in terms of corona spread.
 
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Source: https://www.thelocal.se/20210419/refusal-astra-zeneca-vaccine-in-sweden/
People in Sweden do not have the option to choose which vaccine they get, but are told before it is administered which vaccine is being used.

“In my department we had planned for 150 patients aged over 65 with diabetes, who were to be vaccinated. There were 20 who cancelled ahead of time and seven who left [once they found out which vaccine they would get]. One said ‘I don’t want to die’ and left immediately,” she said. doctor Maria Taranger told the Göteborgs Posten.

“It is a completely crazy risk assessment they’re doing,” she said.

Sweden’s Public Health Agency and government have stressed that the risks of the vaccine are far outweighed by its benefits, in line with advice from the World Health Organisation and European Medicines Agency to continue using the Astra Zeneca vaccine as a safe and effective way to prevent serious illness from Covid-19.

However, a decision to pause the rollout of the vaccine has weakened confidence, and it is currently only recommended for use in over-65s in Sweden following reports of rare blood clots. Millions of doses of the vaccine have been administered, and small numbers of people have developed deadly blood clots, most of them women under 60 within two weeks of vaccination.
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The Voice said:
Common sense still isn't all that common, it seems (speaking about locals, not you, btw).

The government has NOT said anything about stopping social distancing measures, mask wearing, etc. This is purely stupidity on the part of people wanting to do their own thing again, reminiscent of the weeks before the very first lockdown.
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Didn't go past any pubs, but roads were extremely busy on weekend. I get people want to get out in the nice weather, but yeah, just be careful and safe.
 
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AdrianH said:
Did you get a 2nd date?

I was told I would be contacted in 8 to 10 weeks, while another person I know they booked his 2nd date on the day he went.
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Just got a text for my second appointment, going this Sunday for it.
 
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Vorastra said:
Possible connection between Pfizer vaccine (BNT162b2) and shingles (herpes zoster) infection.

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Herpes zoster following BNT162b2 mRNA COVID-19 vaccination in patients with autoimmune inflammatory rheumatic diseases: a case series

AbstractObjectives. As global vaccination campaigns against COVID-19 disease commence, vaccine safety needs to be closely assessed. The safety profile of mRNA-b
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Well, maybe that small group of patients with AIIRD were happier being treated for the (almost all mild cases of) HZ than getting Covid...
 
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