International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

[Paulsie]

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Give me a graph tool and I will show you a result.

Lets look at the same countries on the same dates, but lets look at Shared Positivity rate instead....

 

[C4Cat]

Give me a graph tool and I will show you a result.

Lets look at the same countries on the same dates, but lets look at Shared Positivity rate instead....

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What does Shared Positivity rate show that's relevant exactly?

Perhaps this one is more relevant:

 

[MiW]

Covid in Scotland: Number of new cases highest since February

A total of 992 people tested positive for the virus on Thursday, the highest daily figure since 17 February.

www.bbc.com

 

[Paulsie]

What does Shared Positivity rate show that's relevant exactly?

We were talking lockdowns effectiveness so i showed you that positivity rate of testing was similar, if not same, in different countries, irrespective of their introduction of lockdowns (seasonal????).

Meanwhile you show me a CFR graph, which actually shows the UK and Italy with bad CFR, irrespective of their stringent lockdowns.

 

[Paulsie]

FYI, again talking lockdowns relating to flattening the curve and allowing hospitals to cope....did you know that in the US 2019-20 flu season, the cumulative hospitalization rate was 67.9 per 100,000, compared to 57.2 per 100,000 for 2018-19, compared with overall hospitalization rate for Covid of 20.5 per 100,000.

So when looking at lockdowns as a measure to protect hospitals, they should be used twice a year, seasonally for flu as well.

 

[C4Cat]

We were talking lockdowns effectiveness so i showed you that positivity rate of testing was similar, if not same, in different countries, irrespective of their introduction of lockdowns (seasonal????).

OK, but those were all countries that didn't lockdown initially and then locked down too late. Plus, lockdown meant different things in different countries and given the number of other variables involved, I'm not sure comparing countries that way is that useful.

Meanwhile you show me a CFR graph, which actually shows the UK and Italy with bad CFR, irrespective of their stringent lockdowns.

Both the UK and Italy locked down too late

 

[Pineapple Smurf]

 

[C4Cat]

FYI, again talking lockdowns relating to flattening the curve and allowing hospitals to cope....did you know that in the US 2019-20 flu season, the cumulative hospitalization rate was 67.9 per 100,000, compared to 57.2 per 100,000 for 2018-19, compared with overall hospitalization rate for Covid of 20.5 per 100,000.

So when looking at lockdowns as a measure to protect hospitals, they should be used twice a year, seasonally for flu as well.

I will have to look into that

 

[Cage Rattler]

Interesting how the German Health Mnister Spahn who was here in SA a few days ago is now running around the G7 meeting without having to go through a quarantine which the common plebs have to go through. Obviously a very dangerous disease.

 

[Geoff.D]

Interesting how the German Health Mnister Spahn who was here in SA a few days ago is now running around the G7 meeting without having to go through a quarantine which the common plebs have to go through. Obviously a very dangerous disease.

A Diplomatic Passport combined with a certificate to say you have been vaccinated is enough to frighten the virus into not invading the Minister.

 

[one poster]

FYI, again talking lockdowns relating to flattening the curve and allowing hospitals to cope....did you know that in the US 2019-20 flu season, the cumulative hospitalization rate was 67.9 per 100,000, compared to 57.2 per 100,000 for 2018-19, compared with overall hospitalization rate for Covid of 20.5 per 100,000.

So when looking at lockdowns as a measure to protect hospitals, they should be used twice a year, seasonally for flu as well.

The treatment required and duration of hospitlisation in severe flu is likely somewhat different than for severe covid. (i.e. flu likely has a shorter hospital stay and does not require as specific resources as severe covid).

The infrastructure required around something like high-flow oxygen in trying to manage/treat covid would mean even with some physical beds not necesarily being occupied by patients there is not enough space to treat a great many people at once and some of the ones that are there stay quite long.

The higher hospitalization stat in the pre-covid years could also be interpreted as flu patients being admitted to hospital when not actually required and has no bearing on the severity of covid?

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

Jesus

 

[Paulsie]

Jesus

Nope, Bill.

 

[Paulsie]

No teachers will get J&J jabs this week - the US first has to rule that the shots are safe | News24

Education staff will not receive the J&J Covid-19 vaccine in the week of 7 June – even if 480 000 doses, which J&J offered SA as a replacement for some of the country's potentially contaminated jabs, arrive next week.

www.news24.com

Some of J&J and AstraZeneca's key ingredients are manufactured in the same factory belonging to a company that the FDA is investigating for substandard pharmaceutical practices and potential cross-contamination of ingredients.

So the vaccines might be safe pharmaceutically, but some not so much thanks to human error.

The FDA report is worth reading too.

https://www.fda.gov/media/147762/download?utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

 

[flippakitten]

Give me a graph tool and I will show you a result.

Lets look at the same countries on the same dates, but lets look at Shared Positivity rate instead....

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On that time scale those charts are immensly different, the only correlation there is they're all in the northern hemisphere and it coincides with Winter. Nothing new or extrodanary there.

Also, I'm guessing you left off South Africa and Brazil because they don't line up as nicely as you're trying to point out.

 

[nivek]

Not saying this is the case with Bill here here, but I had a fabric mask that had the exact same effect on my ears

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

New peer reviewed study on COVID-19 vaccines suggests why heart inflammation, blood clots and other dangerous side effects occur - ON Point 640 Toronto

Alex talks with Dr. Byram Bridle, an Associate Professor on Viral Immunology at the University of Guelph about new peer-reviewed studies that suggests there may be a reason side effects such as heart inflammation, VITT, and other serious issues may occur in some who have been vaccinated. Let's...

omny.fm

 

[Dave]

New peer reviewed study on COVID-19 vaccines suggests why heart inflammation, blood clots and other dangerous side effects occur - ON Point 640 Toronto

Alex talks with Dr. Byram Bridle, an Associate Professor on Viral Immunology at the University of Guelph about new peer-reviewed studies that suggests there may be a reason side effects such as heart inflammation, VITT, and other serious issues may occur in some who have been vaccinated. Let's...

omny.fm

Just when you think Covidiots can’t get any stranger. Now the vets get to have their say…

Alex talks with Dr. Byram Bridle, an Associate Professor on Viral Immunology at the University of Guelph

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

Just when you think Covidiots can’t get any stranger. Now the vets get to have their say…



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peer reviewed study, don't attack the source, read the FACTS:

Circulating Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Vaccine Antigen Detected in the Plasma of mRNA-1273 Vaccine Recipients

Abstract. Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) proteins were measured in longitudinal plasma samples collected from 13 participants who

academic.oup.com

@Dave awaiting your highly qualified takedown of each of those researchers in the peer reviewed study:
Alana F Ogata, Chi-An Cheng, Michaël Desjardins, Yasmeen Senussi, Amy C Sherman, Megan Powell, Lewis Novack, Salena Von, Xiaofang Li, Lindsey R Baden,
David R Wal

/s

 

[Dave]

peer reviewed study, don't attack the source, read the FACTS

So his peers would be others in veterinary medicine?

We might be related to monkeys but I think I’ll stick to studies done by doctors and scientists who specialise in human diseases.