International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

[Sinbad]

This thing will be like brexit. Have a plan, have a road map, have a deadline.

3 years later, they will still be debating how to get there.

COVEXIT - you heard it here first.

Not at all.

A 4 week delay to allow the vax programme to get further ahead of the curve - not a terrible idea.

 

[Geoff.D]

Not at all.

A 4 week delay to allow the vax programme to get further ahead of the curve - not a terrible idea.

Delay in opening up further by another 4 weeks?

 

[Sinbad]

Delay in opening up further by another 4 weeks?

Yup.

And remember this opening up means complete removal of all restrictions (apart from the quarantine/isolation stuff for international travel from risky locations).

 

[Geoff.D]

Yup.

And remember this opening up means complete removal of all restrictions (apart from the quarantine/isolation stuff for international travel from risky locations).

Makes perfect sense. Especially in the light of the new cases and deaths of people already fully vaccinated.

 

[Lupus]

Deliberately misleading headline intended to imply this applies to anyone with a BMI over 25 whereas in fact the increased risk is almost entirely for those whose is BMI is well over 30.

They need to stop pretending that being overweight and being obese carry the same risk.

Those body builders are gonna kak themselves.

 

[Sinbad]

Makes perfect sense. Especially in the light of the new cases and deaths of people already fully vaccinated.

I don't think those are the issue. I think the proportion of people who get hospitalised or die is so much lower post-vax, that they want the entire adult population vaccinated before opening up, so as not to place younger people at unnecessary risk - as it seems Delta is quite effective against youngsters compared to the original...

 

[Gordon_R]

Somewhat different symptom profile for the Delta variant, could mean young (unvaccinated) people are not being tested in the UK:

Headache and runny nose linked to Delta variant

People may need to be on the lookout for different Covid symptoms, according to researchers.

www.bbc.com

Prof Tim Spector, who runs the Zoe Covid Symptom study, says catching the Delta variant can feel "more like a bad cold" for younger people.

But although they may not feel very ill, they could be contagious and put others at risk.

Anyone who thinks they may have Covid should take a test.

"Since the start of May, we have been looking at the top symptoms in the app users - and they are not the same as they were," he says.

The change appears linked to the rise in the Delta variant, first identified in India and now accounting for 90% of Covid cases in the UK.

 

[Nod]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1404596240449380353

 

[noxibox]

Delta Plus variant of 'interest' for now, second wave didn't impact youngsters more than first

 

[surface]

India averaging 3-3.5 million doses every day and planning to ramp up to 5 million within next 10 days.

Government reckons they can finish vaccination exercise by end of 2021 which seems near impossible at this stage as it will need 9.5 million per day starting today.

In charts | India’s COVID-19 case count, state-wise trends, vaccination data, and other key details

India reported less than 1 lakh COVID-19 new cases for the 7th day in a row, according to the June 14 update. Active infections decreased by 53,001 cases to 9.73 lakh mark; over 25.48 crore vaccine doses administered till date.

www.moneycontrol.com

India will vaccinate all by December-end: Union Minister Prakash Javadekar

Health Ministry gave roadmap for producing 216 crore doses by then, Union minister Prakash Javadekar said.More than 1.84 crore coronavirus vaccine doses are currently available with states and union territories, health ministry said

www.livemint.com

 

[surface]

Our el Presidento is going to talk to the Nation tonight, We are now a red list country, with record cases, Our local hospital is now using stretchers.

Yet the youngsters are still partying like 1963, masks are not being worn....

Another Spar Owner died yesterday in Namibia, 2nd in less than a week, my mate from Conservation called me to tell me his mum is on her last legs and a lady we know lost both her mum and dad a day apart this weekend...

The Wave is just about here.....

Sho. Not looking good. I vaguely recollect that Dr Paulsie said that these are all mild flu cases and world should be on track soon. MSM just needs to stop making a big deal so as to make this new flu go away I think.

 

[Geoff.D]

Sho. Not looking good. I vaguely recollect that Dr Paulsie said that these are all mild flu cases and world should be on track soon. MSM just needs to stop making a big deal so as to make this new flu go away I think.

Well, based on the medicine prescribed to a patient sent home from a government hospital that I saw, he is one hundred per cent right. The medication prescribed is EXACTLY the same as that prescribed for the flu.

 

[Paulsie]

Sho. Not looking good. I vaguely recollect that Dr Paulsie said that these are all mild flu cases and world should be on track soon. MSM just needs to stop making a big deal so as to make this new flu go away I think.

Your vague recollection sucks.

What Dr. Paulsie said was that if everything in the world was tracked and counted as much as covid (symptoms or no symptoms), people would not be allowed in the streets. Ever.

 

[Rosaudio]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1404596240449380353

Talk about scraping the bottom of a barrel..

 

[surface]

Well, based on the medicine prescribed to a patient sent home from a government hospital that I saw, he is one hundred per cent right. The medication prescribed is EXACTLY the same as that prescribed for the flu.

Indeed. I will request WHO to recommend you & Paulsie for Nobel prize in Medicine. Watch the DM.

 

[Paulsie]

Indeed. I will request WHO to recommend you & Paulsie for Nobel prize in Medicine. Watch the DM.

At least we don't change our opinions and tunes. UNLIKE the WHO.

 

[flippakitten]

At least we don't change our opinions and tunes. UNLIKE the WHO.

Explains why you're always wrong

 

[flippakitten]

At least we don't change our opinions and tunes. UNLIKE the WHO.

Again though, WHO does not have an opinion.

"There is no evidence..." does not mean "in our opinion" it means there is no evidence to come to a conclusion. When information changes, understanding changes and thus advice changes.

 

[Paulsie]

Again though, WHO does not have an opinion.

"There is no evidence..." does not mean "in our opinion" it means there is no evidence to come to a conclusion. When information changes, understanding changes and thus advice changes.

I've missed you!!

You mean, "there's no evidence of human to human transmission" or "there is no need to close borders with China" or "there is no need to restrict international travel"?

 

[Geoff.D]

Again though, WHO does not have an opinion.

"There is no evidence..." does not mean "in our opinion" it means there is no evidence to come to a conclusion. When information changes, understanding changes and thus advice changes.

When the WHO, big Pharma and the vested interests in the medical regulatory environment use the term:

"There is no evidence...", they mean "there is no evidence we are prepared to accept".