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International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3
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Cage Rattler
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Sorry, actuarial background coming though. Unvaxxed is 44 out of 53822 cases versus vaxxed of 50 out 7235 cases.
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Delta cases top of page 13, delta deaths bottom of page 14.
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If you take into account that those that got vaccinated first were older (UK has a big older pop) and vulnerable (comorbidities), it could make sense.
The unvaccinated group was 88% <50 years old where the vaccinated group was around 50% <50 years old.
No one <50 years old died after 2 doses.
The unvaccinated group was 88% <50 years old where the vaccinated group was around 50% <50 years old.
No one <50 years old died after 2 doses.
exactly. Who are the people in the UK who have not been vaccinated? the most likely people to not die. Just having some data isn't enough anymore - we need the data behind the data to know what we're dealing with.
Have you guys considered this or are you just latching on to the data that suits your narrative?
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Yup another example of someone skim reading a document, not bothering to check on context or purpose, then sucking a few numbers and coming up BS.
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The end result is that Delta looks dangerous for the >50, but inconsequential for the <50. Vaccinated or otherwise. So do other variants.
Cage Rattler
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The city state of Singapore has stated covid will be treated like other endemic diseases such as flu.
amp.news.com.au
No numbers or quarantine: Singapore’s radical plan to live with covid
A country that has been one of the world’s most successful at combating Covid-19 has announced it will soon fundamentally change how it manages the pandemic.
amp.news.com.au
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Isn't it exactly that? A new flu (coronavirus) invading a population with zero immunity and killing 0.5%
After which time vaccines and immunity will ensure it kills less and less each year.
The original flu is also know to kill the weak or those that let it go to far and then die from pneumonia etc.
One of my best friends dad died of flu at 40 years old about 25 years ago. Didn't take it seriously and didn't make it.
After which time vaccines and immunity will ensure it kills less and less each year.
The original flu is also know to kill the weak or those that let it go to far and then die from pneumonia etc.
One of my best friends dad died of flu at 40 years old about 25 years ago. Didn't take it seriously and didn't make it.
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Whatever happened to the poster child of the pandemic. What a travesty!!
It's just a flu bro!!!!
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This, this is what I'm trying to get people to understand the flu isn't the common cold, the flu can still kill you, yet every year we have a season about 11000 people die in the flu season every year but it's fine its only the flu. We also don't count every single person, or death the same with the flu it could be higher or lower
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No numbers or quarantine: Singapore’s radical plan to live with covid
A country that has been one of the world’s most successful at combating Covid-19 has announced it will soon fundamentally change how it manages the pandemic.
amp.news.com.au
Lol. The Singaporeans said, “We can’t eradicate it, but we can turn the pandemic into something much less threatening, like influenza or chickenpox, and get on with our lives,”. Implying that without effective vaccines / medicines it is something much more threatening than the flu.
I am surprised you didn't choose to say "it's just chickenpox bro", since they also mentioned that.
The plan is based on the effectiveness of vaccines leading to milder symptoms, reduced hospitalizations and deaths. As far as I can tell that is what the whole world is aiming for (e.g. look at Europe opening up for the Euros based on vaccination).
The Singapore plan also includes:
- Mandatory vaccinations. Booster shots
- You may need to take tests to head to the shops or go to work.
- Easier and quicker test kits. “In time, the airport, seaport, office buildings, malls, hospitals and educational institutions can use these kits to screen staff and visitors.”
None of those measures imply that it is "just a flu."
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This again.
It's 0.5 % of the total population.
What's the mortality rate for over 60s ?
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Vaccination is now available without any advance appointment in England, for everyone over 18.
news.sky.com
COVID-19: All over-18s in England urged to 'grab a jab' at hundreds of walk-in vaccination sites this weekend
Vaccines minister Nadhim Zahawi urges those aged 18 and over to "get to their nearest walk-in centre this weekend" and get a jab.
news.sky.com
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If these figures were recorded for a new drug undergoing trials, would that drug be approved for use?
Yes? Then what is the problem?
No? Then why are these vaccines being accepted for use?
If the answer is "we have no choice" then why are repurposed drugs with the same or better results also not being accepted?
Or are these losses being written off by big pharma and governments as "collateral damage"?
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LOL, misunderstood completely, but never mind.No numbers or quarantine: Singapore’s radical plan to live with covid
A country that has been one of the world’s most successful at combating Covid-19 has announced it will soon fundamentally change how it manages the pandemic.
Lol. The Singaporeans said, “We can’t eradicate it, but we can turn the pandemic into something much less threatening, like influenza or chickenpox, and get on with our lives,”. Implying that without effective vaccines / medicines it is something much more threatening than the flu.
I am surprised you didn't choose to say "it's just chickenpox bro", since they also mentioned that.
The plan is based on the effectiveness of vaccines leading to milder symptoms, reduced hospitalizations and deaths. As far as I can tell that is what the whole world is aiming for (e.g. look at Europe opening up for the Euros based on vaccination).
The Singapore plan also includes:
- Mandatory vaccinations. Booster shots
- You may need to take tests to head to the shops or go to work.
- Easier and quicker test kits. “In time, the airport, seaport, office buildings, malls, hospitals and educational institutions can use these kits to screen staff and visitors.”
None of those measures imply that it is "just a flu."
The point I was making was that the nation that promoted some of the most restrictive lockdowns and was praised for it is the first to turn around to say, we can't get rid of it, let's try and live with it (like the flu).
Which is what some of us here have been saying since the beginning.
Cage Rattler
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Pretty interesting .. covid samples present in Barcelona waste water in March 2019 .. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.06.13.20129627v1.full.pdf
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