International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

[Dave]

and has downloaded another App spying on them?

Geoff, I think you’re out of your depth here, and showing a fair amount of ignorance as to how the app works.

Oh and as for the app spying on you.

It is the NHS. They already know where you live and what your medical history is.

Actually the NHS Test and Trace app doesn’t know who you are or any of your history, it’s the one built on the Apple and Google API’s that work with an anonymised key.

Apple and Google are building a coronavirus tracking system into iOS and Android

It will use Bluetooth connections, not location tracking.

www.theverge.com

 

[dusi]

Because these mRNA vaccines just don't trigger the generation IgA ------- They DO NOT block getting infected, All that is claimed and provable is that they prevent serious illness.

If that is the case, then why are 60% of people being admitted to hospital with covid are fully vaccinated, it seems they are still having serious illness even though fully vaccinated. You'd expect that number to be lower.

 

[Mephisto_Helix]

So 3813 in hospital with covid, 60% of that is 2288 ...... and I bet most are older or vulnerable folk. Add that they're in hospital, not dying. Out of millions. The article plays into fruitcakes hands like a charm.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Er, please remind me what the reason was for getting coronavaxxed.

COVID-19: Vallance corrects mistake to say 60% of people being admitted to hospital with coronavirus are unvaccinated

Earlier, Sir Patrick Vallance told a news conference 60% of coronavirus-related hospital admissions were double-jabbed people - but he later corrected himself.

news.sky.com

All the other vaccinations I've had gave a good degree of immunity. Why doesn't this one?

He has corrected his error (although he really shouldn't have made it in the first place. This is something you can't get wrong in a press conference!). His error has already been broadcast around the world.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1417204235356213252

 

[Sinbad]

 

[dusi]

He has corrected his error (although he really shouldn't have made it in the first place. This is something you can't get wrong in a press conference!). His error has already been broadcast around the world.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1417204235356213252

That's quite a blunder

 

[Arthur]

He has corrected his error (although he really shouldn't have made it in the first place. This is something you can't get wrong in a press conference!). His error has already been broadcast around the world.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1417204235356213252

Whew. That's a relief.

 

[buka001]

He has corrected his error (although he really shouldn't have made it in the first place. This is something you can't get wrong in a press conference!). His error has already been broadcast around the world.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1417204235356213252

Quite the error to make there.

 

[flippakitten]

This always gets me, as if Google and Apple haven't been doing exactly this for almost 2 decades already.

Should we tell him that the NHS don't even get the location or contact data from Google/Apple.

 

[Gordon_R]

Excess deaths estimates in India number in the millions:

Covid-19: India excess deaths cross four million, says study

Excess deaths - those above expected levels - are a measure of the overall impact of the pandemic.

www.bbc.com

Researchers from the US-based Center for Global Development used three different data sources to estimate India's excess all-cause mortality during the pandemic until 21 June.

They extrapolated death registrations from seven states, accounting for half of India's population. India conducts yearly mortality surveys but has only published numbers up to 2019.

Second, the researchers applied international estimates of age-specific infection fatality rates - the number of people that die from the virus - to data from two countrywide antibody tests, also called sero surveys.

Third, they looked at India's consumer survey of 868,000 individuals across 177,000 households which also records whether any member of the family had died in the past four months.

Taken together, the researchers found that excess deaths were estimated to be in the range of 3.4 million to 4.7 million - about 10 times higher than India's official Covid-19 death toll.

 

[ajax]

A research team from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem identified 18 drugs that could help treat if not "cure" people who develop Covid 19.

Prof. Shy Arkin, a biochemist in the Alexander Silberman Institute of Life Science, told The Jerusalem Post that in lab tests in which cells infected with SARS-CoV-2 were placed together with the drugs for two days, “almost 100% of the cells lived despite being infected with the virus.”

 

[ajan]

Geoff, I think you’re out of your depth here, and showing a fair amount of ignorance as to how the app works.




Actually the NHS Test and Trace app doesn’t know who you are or any of your history, it’s the one built on the Apple and Google API’s that work with an anonymised key.

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Apple and Google are building a coronavirus tracking system into iOS and Android

It will use Bluetooth connections, not location tracking.

www.theverge.com

Got source code for those claims?

 

[Prawnapple]

 

[Geoff.D]

A research team from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem identified 18 drugs that could help treat if not "cure" people who develop Covid 19.

There are no cures for anything. All those drugs do like most drugs do, is treat symptoms, some better than others.
Any report that starts talking about cures is already suspect.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

More than half of Australia's population under COVID-19 lockdowns

More than half of Australia's 25 million people were under lockdown on Tuesday after a third state adopted movement curbs to rein in the highly contagious Delta variant of coronavirus.

www.reuters.com

 

[Lupus]

More than half of Australia's population under COVID-19 lockdowns

More than half of Australia's 25 million people were under lockdown on Tuesday after a third state adopted movement curbs to rein in the highly contagious Delta variant of coronavirus.

www.reuters.com

It's the only way, lock down for 3 people

 

[Nanfeishen]

More than half of Australia's population under COVID-19 lockdowns

More than half of Australia's 25 million people were under lockdown on Tuesday after a third state adopted movement curbs to rein in the highly contagious Delta variant of coronavirus.

www.reuters.com

Utter madness, there have been more road deaths than covid in Aus, maybe rather ban cars , would save more lives. 915 Corona, 1140 odd, road.

Australia COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Australia Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.

www.worldometers.info

Road deaths by road user

Calendar year Driver Passenger Pedestrian Motorcyclist Cyclist

www.roadsafety.gov.au

Alan Jones at it again, if only there were more presenters worldwide on both radio and TV calling it as he does.

 

[noxibox]

If that is the case, then why are 60% of people being admitted to hospital with covid are fully vaccinated, it seems they are still having serious illness even though fully vaccinated. You'd expect that number to be lower.

On its own that 60% number tells us nothing. You'd have to ask what percentage of the group they come from would have ended up in hospital without being vaccinated. If it is more then probably the vaccine lowers the chances of ending up in hospital.

 

[noxibox]

A research team from the Hebrew University of Jerusalem identified 18 drugs that could help treat if not "cure" people who develop Covid 19.

As much as in vitro tests can be indicative of potential they tell nothing much about usefulness in vivo.

There are already treatments that help a lot of people. Doctors have been fine tuning those for probably the last year. They also found that the right treatment with oxygen made a significant difference to survival rates.

Cures though seem unlikely. It's certainly a holy grail of dealing with viruses.

 

[pinball wizard]

In the UK you have an NHS App that shows your vaccination status with a QR code.

That is the vaccine passport.

Gee. Anyone would think electronic fraud doesn't exist.