International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

Paulsie

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An interesting read
 

Dave

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An interesting read

It was an interesting read, for a change, Paulsie.


“Sponsors of EUA products are encouraged to follow up the EUA with a pre-market submission so that it can remain on the market once the EUA is no longer in effect.”16 But EUAs have no built-in expiry date—in fact, 14 EUAs for Zika diagnostic tests remain active despite the public health emergency expiring in 2017.

Maybe now the idiots who still bang on about “experimental” vaccines can read that and gain a bit more knowledge about the approval process.
 

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Maybe now the idiots who still bang on about “experimental” vaccines can read that and gain a bit more knowledge about the approval process.
Finally, it may affect the potential for vaccine mandates: “It is unlikely these vaccines will be mandated while an EUA is in place. Remember that currently these vaccines are still considered experimental.”

While still under EUA, an increasing number of educational and other institutions have already mandated vaccines, but debates over the legality of these actions has hinged on the distinction between authorisation and approval.19
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I referred to the FDA statement, not the opinion of the doctor. Did you not see the difference? Or the reference to many Zika medications still being under EUA’s years after the epidemic subsided?

Come on now, Professor Paulsie, the quote was there for a reason.
 

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Israel has stopped giving daily breakdown stats by vax status for hospitalization, severity, death, etc Only cases given by vax status now. Interesting... btw, use the MoH Telegram channel for the data.
 

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Israel has stopped giving daily breakdown stats by vax status for hospitalization, severity, death, etc Only cases given by vax status now. Interesting... btw, use the MoH Telegram channel for the data.
The daily updates should've stopped world-wide a long time ago, or maybe done in the waves, as this watching the stats over 18 months so far isn't right either.
 

Cage Rattler

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Is there a vaccine supply problem at present? A large number of European countries have had a continual declining rate of administered doses per capita since late June / beginning July.
 
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Don't tell governments though! We can't have power-drunk government bureaucrats thinking they can't control the virus!

More Covid Mysteries

Consider these Covid-19 mysteries:

  • In India — where the Delta variant was first identified and caused a huge outbreak — cases have plunged over the past two months. A similar drop may now be underway in Britain. There is no clear explanation for these declines.
  • In the U.S., cases started falling rapidly in early January. The decline began before vaccination was widespread and did not follow any evident changes in Americans’ Covid attitudes.
  • In March and April, the Alpha variant helped cause a sharp rise in cases in the upper Midwest and Canada. That outbreak seemed poised to spread to the rest of North America — but did not.
  • This spring, caseloads were not consistently higher in parts of the U.S. that had relaxed masking and social distancing measures (like Florida and Texas) than in regions that remained vigilant.
  • Large parts of Africa and Asia still have not experienced outbreaks as big as those in Europe, North America and South America.
How do we solve these mysteries? Michael Osterholm, who runs an infectious disease research center at the University of Minnesota, suggests that people keep in mind one overriding idea: humility.

“We’ve ascribed far too much human authority over the virus,” he told me.[/quote\
 

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South Africa had its own example in December last year. There was all that fuss about cases in the Garden Route, yet the cases peaked and dropped off before any of the restrictions could have made a difference. But their third wave is looking quite similar the second.

Looking at current data for the Western Cape Khayelitsha has had a smaller bump in each wave. It's barely even there in the current wave. Have they all moved into big houses and are now religiously following physical distancing and mask wearing over there? Are they all vaccinated?

Yip I happen to agree. There seems to currently be a frenzy for all to get vaccinated, where natural immunity from past infection is probably as good or even better.

Plenty of people have been saying for a long time that the behaviour of the authorities is behind the loss of trust.
 

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Lots of data coming out nowadays, now from Portugal


From the article:
"Two out of every 100 people hospitalized with Covid-19 between June 28 and July 4 were already fully vaccinated against the disease, revealed the General Directorate of Health (DGS) during the meeting at Infarmed this Tuesday morning. In the intensive care units (ICU), 5% of hospitalized patients had also completed the vaccination schedule."
 

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It looks like they’re trying to use this variant as a justification to maintain restrictions like mask use. The guy from the CDC is right that they’ve been trying to hype the Delta variant for months.
 

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It looks like they’re trying to use this variant as a justification to maintain restrictions like mask use. The guy from the CDC is right that they’ve been trying to hype the Delta variant for months.

Bad move I rate. Those who are not vaccinated in the US by now have chosen not to be. So let them suffer the consequences and lift all restrictions. Nothing will change these people's minds except (and only in some cases) witnessing the virus first hand.
 
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Bad move I rate. Those who are not vaccinated in the US by now have chosen not to be. So let them suffer the consequences and lift all restrictions. Nothing will change these people's minds except (and only in some cases) witnessing the virus first hand.

Totally agree! I foresee us having the same problem in SA.
 
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