International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

Markd

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Frightening times we live in when YouTube and its algorithms decide what's right and what's wrong

the mythical algorithm is at it again eh? More likely people reporting their videos for being utter bs, a human having to review them, and then taking the decision to, rightfully, block them. Go listen to 'Sky News Australia' - its amazing to think it shares the name 'Sky' with what we all know as Sky News. It's incredibly conservative, right wing, and bordering on conspiracy theory promotion. Its crazy.
 

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It is just as likely automated.

Circulating Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) Vaccine Antigen Detected in the Plasma of mRNA-1273 Vaccine Recipients

S1 antigen was detected as early as day 1 postvaccination, and peak levels were detected on average 5 days after the first injection (Figure 1A). The mean S1 peak level was 68 pg/mL ± 21 pg/mL. S1 in all participants declined and became undetectable by day 14.

Spike protein was detectable in 3 of 13 participants an average of 15 days after the first injection. The mean spike peak level was 62 pg/mL ± 13 pg/mL. After the second vaccine dose, no S1 or spike was detectable, and both antigens remained undetectable through day 56. For one individual (participant 8), spike was detected at day 29, 1 day after the second injection and was undetectable 2 days later.

Further on in that thread this study is even linked, so I don't see the point of that whole speculative calculation.
 

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More likely people reporting their videos for being utter bs, a human having to review them, and then taking the decision to, rightfully, block them.
And they themselves decide based on what. Their divine knowledge in microbiology? Reuters factcheck?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Or should it be Who's paying the custodians?
 
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Markd

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And they themselves decide based on what. Their divine knowledge in microbiology? Reuters factcheck?

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
Or should it be Who's paying the custodians?

Often on the basis of the stuff appearing on a news channel not being backed by any facts at all, let alone reliable facts. It's to protect people like you who are inclined to think that because they (news channel) said it, it's a fact.
 

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It's to protect people like you who are inclined to think that because they (news channel) said it, it's a fact.
I'm blessed then. Thank you for saving my body and mind. What was I thinking!!!

I must now quickly go and YouTube how to save struggling business and save its employees. I'm sure they will have checked what the correct answer is. Fingers crossed!!
 
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Tom is no ordinary doctor. He is the former Director of the Center for Disease Control under President Barack Obama. He is also propagating dangerous misinformation about the COVID-19 vaccines. It will cause people to misunderstand the real world results which can cause more people to die, and exacerbate the pandemic.

Dr. Tom is wrong. About as wrong you can get. The real world data has shown that the death rate among the vaccinated, if infected with COVID, can be 3 to 5.7 times higher1 than the death rate of the unvaccinated.
 

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F.D.A. Aims to Give Final Approval to Pfizer Vaccine by Early Next Month​


WASHINGTON — With a new surge of coronavirus infections ripping through much of the United States, the Food and Drug Administration has accelerated its timetable to fully approve Pfizer-BioNTech’s coronavirus vaccine, aiming to complete the process by the start of next month, people familiar with the effort said.

President Biden said last week that he expected a fully approved vaccine in early fall. But the F.D.A.’s unofficial deadline is Labor Day or sooner, according to multiple people familiar with the plan. The agency said in a statement that its leaders recognized that approval might inspire more public confidence and had “taken an all-hands-on-deck approach” to the work.

Giving final approval to the Pfizer vaccine — rather than relying on the emergency authorization granted late last year by the F.D.A. — could help increase inoculation rates at a moment when the highly transmissible Delta variant of the virus is sharply driving up the number of new cases.
 

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On what grounds?
That the vaccine is safe and does no harm?
That the vaccine prevents infection?
That the vaccine prevents transmission?
That the vaccine reduces the risk of severe illness, hospitalisation and death?

Those that understand the research papers released dealing with the Pfizer vaccine should be able to answer the above questions without any trouble.
 

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WASHINGTON — With a new surge of coronavirus infections ripping through much of the United States, the Food and Drug Administration has accelerated its timetable to fully approve Pfizer-BioNTech’s coronavirus vaccine...

The agency said in a statement that its leaders recognized that approval might inspire more public confidence and had “taken an all-hands-on-deck approach” to the work.
Nothing to do with safety data then??

Refer to post above - acceptable catastrophic error [actions based on the acceptance of assumption that vaccines are safe / no time frame given]

Note: I did not say they are not safe, but the absolute reluctance to consider they might not be is what can lead to the mentioned catastrophic error
 
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