International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Any links on this? I can't see anything on Reuters website or on Twitter etc?

Hmmm....can't see it as well. Usually the account links to the news story in the 2nd tweet but I see he/she hasn't and a quick search on Google doesn't show up a Reuters story. Maybe it is getting published later.

 

[Dave]

Any links on this? I can't see anything on Reuters website or on Twitter etc?

looks like Chris is using his 30%er university degree to analyse things .

No lockdown mentioned on Reuters.

France plans new COVID measures but wants to avoid new lockdown

France will announce new COVID-19 containment measures on Thursday as infection rates surge nationwide, but does not plan a new lockdown like some other European Union countries.

www.reuters.com

PARIS, Nov 24 (Reuters) - The French government will announce new COVID-19 containment measures on Thursday as the infection rate surges nationwide, government spokesman Gabriel Attal said on Wednesday.

Attal said the government wants to avoid major curbs on public life, preferring to strengthen social distancing rules and speeding up its vaccination booster campaign. The government would also tighten health pass rules, he said.

We must protect the French people by building on what we have, to save the end-of-year festivities and get through the winter as well as possible," Attal told a press conference.

France's health pass - which allows entry to cafes, restaurants, museums, cinemas and other public places for people who are vaccinated or have a recent negative COVID test - is a key reason why France is doing better than some of its neighbours, President Emmanuel Macron says.

Attal declined to comment on what measures Health Minister Olivier Veran may announce on Thursday, but the government is widely expected to follow the advice of health regulator HAS, which said on Friday that a third dose of the vaccine should be extended to everyone over the age of 40.

 

[Spizz]

Vaccines are NOT "working" the way the pro-vaxers want them to ------

So you keep saying Geoff and then not responding when asked to clarify or back up your point. It's almost like you have an agenda based on nothing other than feelings or stupid stories like this Narrow Band character is trying to push.

They have reduced deaths.

They have reduced hospitilsation.

They have opened the world up again.

I mean ffs, is spending your days trying to search otherwise and grasping onto any straw possible really the way to go?

 

[Gordon_R]

looks like Chris is using his 30%er university degree to analyse things .

No lockdown mentioned on Reuters.

France plans new COVID measures but wants to avoid new lockdown

France will announce new COVID-19 containment measures on Thursday as infection rates surge nationwide, but does not plan a new lockdown like some other European Union countries.

www.reuters.com

PARIS, Nov 24 (Reuters) - The French government will announce new COVID-19 containment measures on Thursday as the infection rate surges nationwide, government spokesman Gabriel Attal said on Wednesday.

Attal said the government wants to avoid major curbs on public life, preferring to strengthen social distancing rules and speeding up its vaccination booster campaign. The government would also tighten health pass rules, he said.

We must protect the French people by building on what we have, to save the end-of-year festivities and get through the winter as well as possible," Attal told a press conference.

France's health pass - which allows entry to cafes, restaurants, museums, cinemas and other public places for people who are vaccinated or have a recent negative COVID test - is a key reason why France is doing better than some of its neighbours, President Emmanuel Macron says.

Attal declined to comment on what measures Health Minister Olivier Veran may announce on Thursday, but the government is widely expected to follow the advice of health regulator HAS, which said on Friday that a third dose of the vaccine should be extended to everyone over the age of 40.

France, Spain and Italy are relatively stable, much better than Germany, Austria etc:

 

[Paulsie]

Read an article which compared the current state of affairs with post 9/11 war on terror.

The parallels are overwhelming. The “state of emergency.” The propaganda. The mass hysteria. The mob mentality. The exaggeration of the actual threat. The police-state atmosphere. The suppression of dissent. The constant repetition of the new official narrative. The exhortative catchphrases and meaningless slogans. The confusion. The chaos. The existential fear. And so on. It is all so very familiar.

 

[buka001]

Vaccines are NOT "working" the way the pro-vaxers want them to ------

Care to explain how they are not working according to how pro-vaxxers expected?

With some quotes to explain what was said, compared to what is not working?

 

[NarrowBandFtw]

My perspective? I thought you were posting stats on the vaccine efficacy and was interested to read the story. I then realised you trying to imply the vaccines aren't working and I have no desire to play your childish games.

no there was no implication, the raw facts prove it beyond doubt for the USA

 

[Paulsie]

Care to explain how they are not working according to how pro-vaxxers expected?

With some quotes to explain what was said, compared to what is not working?

100% EFFECTIVE AGAINST INFECTION - This post is from yesterday. Let's just say I've heard this all before somewhere...

Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine 100% effective in long-term protection for adolescents, trial shows

Pfizer and BioNTech said Monday that longer-term analysis found the companies' vaccine was 100% efficacious against COVID-19 infections in individuals 12- to 15 years old.

www.foxbusiness.com

The Phase 3 trial – conducted in 2,228 participants – found that of the 30 confirmed symptomatic cases of COVID-19 in the trial with and without evidence of prior infection with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, 30 cases of COVID-19 were in the placebo group and zero cases were in the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine group.

Edit: And from May 2021

Pfizer Vaccine Is Effective Against the Two Worst Variants, Study Says

A pair of new studies have found that the Pfizer vaccine is still highly effective at protecting against two of the worst variants.

bestlifeonline.com

The study found that the Pfizer vaccine was 96.5 percent effective at protecting against infection, 98 percent against hospitalization, and 98.1 percent against death 14 days after the second dose, and even maintained a 94 percent efficacy for those 85 years old and up

Was it really never about infections???

 

[Dave]

100% EFFECTIVE AGAINST INFECTION - This post is from yesterday. Let's just say I've heard this all before somewhere...

Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine 100% effective in long-term protection for adolescents, trial shows

Pfizer and BioNTech said Monday that longer-term analysis found the companies' vaccine was 100% efficacious against COVID-19 infections in individuals 12- to 15 years old.

www.foxbusiness.com

Edit: And from May 2021

Pfizer Vaccine Is Effective Against the Two Worst Variants, Study Says

A pair of new studies have found that the Pfizer vaccine is still highly effective at protecting against two of the worst variants.

bestlifeonline.com

Was it really never about infections???

They are referring to people on that study, not in general.

The updated findings from the companies’ pivotal Phase 3 trial show that a two-dose series of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 Vaccine (30-µg per dose) was 100% effective against COVID-19, measured seven days through over four months after the second dose," the release said.

The Phase 3 trial – conducted in 2,228 participants – found that of the 30 confirmed symptomatic cases of COVID-19 in the trial with and without evidence of prior infection with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, 30 cases of COVID-19 were in the placebo group and zero cases were in the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine group.

Paul, don't be a Geoff...

 

[Geoff.D]

100% EFFECTIVE AGAINST INFECTION - This post is from yesterday. Let's just say I've heard this all before somewhere...

Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine 100% effective in long-term protection for adolescents, trial shows

Pfizer and BioNTech said Monday that longer-term analysis found the companies' vaccine was 100% efficacious against COVID-19 infections in individuals 12- to 15 years old.

www.foxbusiness.com

Edit: And from May 2021

Pfizer Vaccine Is Effective Against the Two Worst Variants, Study Says

A pair of new studies have found that the Pfizer vaccine is still highly effective at protecting against two of the worst variants.

bestlifeonline.com

Was it really never about infections???

Pity this lot don't READ the ACTUAL press release first BEFORE ranting and raving ---- then they might see Pfizer DO NOT use those words anywhere.

 

[buka001]

100% EFFECTIVE AGAINST INFECTION - This post is from yesterday. Let's just say I've heard this all before somewhere...

Pfizer's COVID-19 vaccine 100% effective in long-term protection for adolescents, trial shows

Pfizer and BioNTech said Monday that longer-term analysis found the companies' vaccine was 100% efficacious against COVID-19 infections in individuals 12- to 15 years old.

www.foxbusiness.com

Edit: And from May 2021

Pfizer Vaccine Is Effective Against the Two Worst Variants, Study Says

A pair of new studies have found that the Pfizer vaccine is still highly effective at protecting against two of the worst variants.

bestlifeonline.com

Was it really never about infections???

Those are claims based on actual clinical data of the participants in those trials.

 

[buka001]

Pity this lot don't READ the ACTUAL press release first BEFORE ranting and raving ---- then they might see Pfizer DO NOT use those words anywhere.

They actually said that -

Pfizer and BioNTech said Monday that longer-term analysis found the companies' vaccine was 100% effective against COVID-19 infections in individuals 12 to 15 years old.

....


The Phase 3 trial – conducted in 2,228 participants – found that of the 30 confirmed symptomatic cases of COVID-19 in the trial with and without evidence of prior infection with the SARS-CoV-2 virus, 30 cases of COVID-19 were in the placebo group and zero cases were in the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine group.

 

[Ragnarök]

So how many kids between 12 - 15 have had or died from Covid in the last 2 years worldwide .

 

[buka001]

So how many kids between 12 - 15 have had or died from Covid in the last 2 years worldwide .

What is the acceptable number of children deaths allowed by you, if there is a way to make it almost a 0% chance of death?

 

[PsyWulf]

What is the acceptable number of children deaths allowed by you, if there is a way to make it almost a 0% chance of death?

Screw children/old people/comorbidities/unlucky ones
Freeeeeeedoooooooommmmm

 

[Ragnarök]

What is the acceptable number of children deaths allowed by you, if there is a way to make it almost a 0% chance of death?

What is the numbers , stop with the fear mongering .

I am sure more died of hunger , malaria , list go on

 

[Paulsie]

They are referring to people on that study, not in general.

Paul, don't be a Geoff...

So results from their trials are irrelevant when used in general?? Good to know!!

Ps:

The data gathered, the release said, will be used to form the basis for a planned supplemental Biologics License Application (sBLA) to be submitted to the FDA, with the aim of expanding vaccine approval for those 12 years and older.

I would be proudly be "a Geoff"... At least he can think for himself.

I was going to offer you a spade, but don't need to. Your hole is deep enough.

 

[SubtleBeast]

Nice to see the pro-vaxxers as good at goalpost shifting as ever.

 

[SubtleBeast]

WHO fears 700 000 more Covid-19 deaths in Europe | News24

Europe remains "in the firm grip" of Covid-19 and the death toll on the continent could top 2.2 million this winter if current trends continue, the World Health Organization said.

www.news24.com

 

[Paulsie]

Nice to see the pro-vaxxers as good at goalpost shifting as ever.

It's never been about true facts, it is about THEIR facts. That is why it is pointless arguing.