International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

[Paulsie]

Botswana mutation:

South African scientists warn variant is behind sudden Covid surge

Fears are mounting that a new Covid variant believed to have emerged in Botswana is driving a surge in cases in neighbouring South Africa.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Does more infectious mean more dangerous? That's unknown at the moment. Also will be interesting to see how natural immunity fares against this (as it was exposed to the wholeb virus, not just the spike)

Current jabs train the immune system to recognise an older version of the spike, and lots of changes to this protein make it harder for the vaccinated people to fight it off.

 

[RiaX]

Does more infectious mean more dangerous? That's unknown at the moment. Also will be interesting to see how natural immunity fares against this (as it was exposed to the wholeb virus, not just the spike)

Unknown. We will only know when we start seeing the hospital admissions.

 

[PsyWulf]

I wonder if one of the protesters is called Paul and one is called Geoff?

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They are shitting all over,so likely,or at least they subscribe to "Village Idiot Quarterly" too

 

[buka001]

Why don't you reference an article from before August 2021? You might get even higher than 50-60% as proof of your claim.

Studies based on the prevalent variant at the time? Sure.

Covid-19: Moderna and Pfizer vaccines prevent infections as well as symptoms, CDC study finds

Vaccination with the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine reduces infections by 90%, while a single dose confers 80% protection, shows a study led by the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) that followed essential workers through the worst months of the pandemic.1 The study is one of a...

www.bmj.com

They still didn't claim 100%. And at this time their studies were based on data from the Alpha variant.

 

[Geoff.D]

Unknown. We will only know when we start seeing the hospital admissions.

How long does that take? Days or hours?

 

[RiaX]

How long does that take? Days or hours?

Unknown. I cant really say. I can only start building data when patients are in my wards. Everything else is theoretical at this point

 

[EvoX]

Is the new variant immune to the vaccine?

 

[EvoX]

Unknown. I cant really say. I can only start building data when patients are in my wards. Everything else is theoretical at this point

Are you a Dr?

 

[RiaX]

Are you a Dr?

Im a pharmacist.

Is the new variant immune to the vaccine?

I would say no. It may bypass the vaccine but the vaccine will still offer protection to a certain degree depends what has changed in the virus. We wont know until we know the finer details of the variant and see what happens in our hospitals. So we will have to wait and see no other way.

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1463932462447403014

 

[The Voice]

Is the new variant immune to the vaccine?

Possibly/eventually. Even the modern flu vaccine doesn't protect you from "the flu", just the worst variants of the new season. Which I guess is why we're going to need another booster in 6-12mths.

 

[Lupus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1463932462447403014

And people want to know why there is hesitancy on the vaccine? Cause take the vaccine and life will get back to normal, guess that was a lie.

 

[vatie]

Is the new variant immune to the vaccine?

Immunity is never binary, protection may fall to lower levels and in the worst case to very low levels. But nobody really will know right now, they can test it in a lab petri dish and observe how much it affects antibody neutralisation but that is also just one aspect of immunity.

 

[dualmeister]

God damn biological weapons.

 

[vatie]

And people want to know why there is hesitancy on the vaccine? Cause take the vaccine and life will get back to normal, guess that was a lie.

It is bizzare and you are right it is sending the wrong message. They should follow what the UK is doing, the UK is not panicking about the new case rises because their hospitals are coping. Portugal's new cases are rising quite sharply but their hospitalisations are looking really quite manageable:

 

[tetrasect]

It is bizzare and you are right it is sending the wrong message. They should follow what the UK is doing, the UK is not panicking about the new case rises because their hospitals are coping. Portugal's new cases are rising quite sharply but their hospitalisations are looking really quite manageable:

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Exactly. In most cases if a vaccinated person gets infected it's just like a booster. Sure if hospitals are overflowing then do something but otherwise what's the point?

 

[Lupus]

Exactly. In most cases if a vaccinated person gets infected it's just like a booster. Sure if hospitals are overflowing then do something but otherwise what's the point?

Tell that to the European countries, they seem to have switched back to 0 covid

 

[flytek]

Exactly. In most cases if a vaccinated person gets infected it's just like a booster. Sure if hospitals are overflowing then do something but otherwise what's the point?

Same applies to our large proportion of previously infected does it not?

 

[buka001]

Exactly. In most cases if a vaccinated person gets infected it's just like a booster. Sure if hospitals are overflowing then do something but otherwise what's the point?

Patients in the hospitals are mostly unvaccinated anyway. Some of the hospitals are feeling the pressure it would seem.

Covid-19: Hospital ITU at capacity with mainly unvaccinated patients

Doctors are pleading for people in Gloucestershire to have the jab to help alleviate the pressure.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Travel restrictions to South Africa under discussion as Covid ‘super variant’ cases climb

World Health Organisation to decide whether the new variant should be labelled 'of concern' with potential name of Nu

inews.co.uk