International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

[Geoff.D]

Why are the mutations replicating in the same denominations as memory cards? 8, 16, 32?

because that is the way things happen in nature, in pairs. Besides, all the computers doing the work can only count in binary.

 

[EvoX]

And yet, the locations where it is mostly being allowed to run its course, ie the developing world is the source of most mutations. First there was Delta in India, now this here in Southern Africa.

We had beta last year, it was the first of the dangerous variants. Alpha being the original then beta the second mutation.
Then Brazil had a mutation. India was next with Delta.
Two of the most dangerous variants came from India and SA, this new variant will be the second dangerous variant “out of SA”.
Now why would little ol SA produce two of the worlds most dangerous variants in just 12 months.
It sounds fishy. But the science says it’s possibly attributed to our AIDS numbers as AIDS is also a virus.
Could it be? Maybe.
Why have none of the other countries produced a dangerous variant? They have the worst numbers, yet no dangerous variants, I find that hard to believe.

 

[PsyWulf]

Just heard Singapore's buttoning up,no transit or travelers from Southern Africa

 

[Lupus]

We had beta last year, it was the first of the dangerous variants. Alpha being the original then beta the second mutation.
Then Brazil had a mutation. India was next with Delta.
Two of the most dangerous variants came from India and SA, this new variant will be the second dangerous variant “out of SA”.
Now why would little ol SA produce two of the worlds most dangerous variants in just 12 months.
It sounds fishy. But the science says it’s possibly attributed to our AIDS numbers as AIDS is also a virus.
Could it be? Maybe.
Why have none of the other countries produced a dangerous variant? They have the worst numbers, yet no dangerous variants, I find that hard to believe.

Delta was from India.

 

[vatie]

We had beta last year, it was the first of the dangerous variants. Alpha being the original then beta the second mutation.
Then Brazil had a mutation. India was next with Delta.
Two of the most dangerous variants came from India and SA, this new variant will be the second dangerous variant “out of SA”.
Now why would little ol SA produce two of the worlds most dangerous variants in just 12 months.
It sounds fishy. But the science says it’s possibly attributed to our AIDS numbers as AIDS is also a virus.
Could it be? Maybe.
Why have none of the other countries produced a dangerous variant? They have the worst numbers, yet no dangerous variants, I find that hard to believe.

Yeah, so, we have many immunocompromised in SA which create the ideal breeding ground for mutations to occur. It just means many more rolls of the mutation dice because the virus replicates for many more generations in an immunocompromised individual than in the average person. There was even a study done where they found an immunocompromised individual with replicating virus for a period of over 200 days

 

[BadBoyGP]

We had beta last year, it was the first of the dangerous variants. Alpha being the original then beta the second mutation.
Then Brazil had a mutation. India was next with Delta.
Two of the most dangerous variants came from India and SA, this new variant will be the second dangerous variant “out of SA”.
Now why would little ol SA produce two of the worlds most dangerous variants in just 12 months.
It sounds fishy. But the science says it’s possibly attributed to our AIDS numbers as AIDS is also a virus.
Could it be? Maybe.
Why have none of the other countries produced a dangerous variant? They have the worst numbers, yet no dangerous variants, I find that hard to believe.

So you saying

China
Brazil
India
South africa...

Strange.
BRICS...

Let's see if it's Russia next.

 

[The Voice]

The pandemic is like a wizard, it will last exactly as long as it needs to last... I mean by now the Spanish flu was wrapping up as it had spread through and done it's job. But thanks to the chicken littles running things COVID is going to remain with us for a very long time.

The Spanish Flu was pretty easy to manage in the end I reckon: it happened during/after WW1 where everyone had been doing their part for years already.

100 years later and we've been stuck with this for a lot longer than we've needed to be because of "but my freedoms".

 

[Lupus]

The Spanish Flu was pretty easy to manage in the end I reckon: it happened during/after WW1 where everyone had been doing their part for years already.

100 years later and we've been stuck with this for a lot longer than we've needed to be because of "but my freedoms".

It happened from according to records 1918, same say might've been earlier, but it ended around 1921. Actually we've been stuck with this because of the locking down the healthy. Instead of letting it run it's course through them.

 

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[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

Israeli PM warns of state of emergency due to new coronavirus valiant

Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett met health experts on Friday to discuss how best to respond to a new variant of the coronavirus that has been detected in South Africa that he said was more contagious than the Delta strain."We are currently on the verge of a state of emergency," Bennett said, according to a statement from his office. "Our main principle is to act fast, strong and now."

 

[tetrasect]

EU seeks to stop air travel from southern Africa over Covid variant​

The Commission will propose, in close coordination with Member States, to activate the emergency brake to stop air travel from the southern African region due to the variant of concern B.1.1.529.

EU, US to halt air travel to and from southern Africa

European Union states have agreed to suspend travel from southern Africa after the detection of a new Covid-19 variant named Omicron, the presidency of the EU has said.

www.rte.ie

 

[The Voice]

It happened from according to records 1918, same say might've been earlier, but it ended around 1921. Actually we've been stuck with this because of the locking down the healthy. Instead of letting it run it's course through them.

Letting the Spanish Flu "run its course" before major actions were taken cost around 50 million lives, which was significant at the time because the world population was only a fraction of what it is today. It was carried all over the world by "healthy" soldiers returning home from the front. Also consider how poor communication was back then: not everyone had access to radio, TV didn't exist and a lot of people couldn't even read. Yet, they still ended up doing what they needed to, and the virus eventually just died out.

Fast forward to 2020, and the UK government warns everyone about the virus, advises on social distancing and unnecessary travel. You can't turn a corner without seeing or hearing something about COVID. What do 75000 people do the following week? Go to Cheltenham.

 

[tetrasect]

We're banned from Germany, Italy, Netherlands, India, Czech Republic, Singapore, Israel, UK...

At this rate there will be a worldwide ban by tomorrow.

 

[Dave]

Not planning on canceling just yet, made sure I have the option on all my bookings though. If we are allowed to go, we're going.

It's not looking good for you.

EU, US to halt air travel to and from southern Africa

European Union states have agreed to suspend travel from southern Africa after the detection of a new Covid-19 variant named Omicron, the presidency of the EU has said.

www.rte.ie

 

[Lupus]

Letting the Spanish Flu "run its course" before major actions were taken cost around 50 million lives, which was significant at the time because the world population was only a fraction of what it is today. It was carried all over the world by "healthy" soldiers returning home from the front. Also consider how poor communication was back then: not everyone had access to radio, TV didn't exist and a lot of people couldn't even read. Yet, they still ended up doing what they needed to, and the virus eventually just died out.

Fast forward to 2020, and the UK government warns everyone about the virus, advises on social distancing and unnecessary travel. You can't turn a corner without seeing or hearing something about COVID. What do 75000 people do the following week? Go to Cheltenham.

Estimated 50 million and that was an entirely different era with an entirely different virus, remember we cannot compare COVID to the flu. The Spanish flu was only so bad as a world war had just finished and it had weakened a lot of people, it also targetted the younger people vs the older that viruses normally kill off.
So we cannot really compare, but if you want to Hong Kong flu, Asian Flu and Russian Flu nothing was done about those and they ran their courses killing maybe 4 million people. In fact most people you speak to who lived through those eras didn't even know there was a flu going around.
So if we had just let this go, it probably would've killed off the old like it did, maybe one or 2 younger people and it would've died out sooner then later. But hey locking down the young and healthy certainly flattend the curves.

 

[Arzy]

It's not looking good for you.

EU, US to halt air travel to and from southern Africa

European Union states have agreed to suspend travel from southern Africa after the detection of a new Covid-19 variant named Omicron, the presidency of the EU has said.

www.rte.ie

Yep...starting to look at alternate dates

 

[Lupus]

Israeli PM warns of state of emergency due to new coronavirus valiant

Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett met health experts on Friday to discuss how best to respond to a new variant of the coronavirus that has been detected in South Africa that he said was more contagious than the Delta strain."We are currently on the verge of a state of emergency," Bennett said, according to a statement from his office. "Our main principle is to act fast, strong and now."

I thought they were super, super vaccinated and the model for everyone to follow?

 

[Paulsie]

Yep...starting to look at alternate dates

2027 looking good so far...

 

[EvoX]

We're banned from Germany, Italy, India, Czech Republic, Singapore, Israel, UK...

At this rate there will be a worldwide ban by tomorrow.

Is it just mass hysteria, fear or caution. Because they either trying to be proactive or the fear and danger of the strain is real.

 

[The Voice]

Estimated 50 million and that was an entirely different era with an entirely different virus, remember we cannot compare COVID to the flu. The Spanish flu was only so bad as a world war had just finished and it had weakened a lot of people, it also targetted the younger people vs the older that viruses normally kill off.
So we cannot really compare, but if you want to Hong Kong flu, Asian Flu and Russian Flu nothing was done about those and they ran their courses killing maybe 4 million people. In fact most people you speak to who lived through those eras didn't even know there was a flu going around.
So if we had just let this go, it probably would've killed off the old like it did, maybe one or 2 younger people and it would've died out sooner then later. But hey locking down the young and healthy certainly flattend the curves.

Point of locking down the young and "healthy" (I've purposefully used the "" because it's killed people you wouldn't expect it to) was because while they were unlikely to get very sick from it, they were most definitely able to transfer it to others. And as people with underlying issues were already staying home trying to avoid it, their younger, healthier relatives were the ones still going around spreading it and/or bringing it home. Lockdowns were a necessary evil at the time.