International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

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Paulsie said:
Not so much on the last BA flight out last night. Too lazy to look for article, but they just walked straight in.
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Sounds like the UK, I did the same last year on an expat flight. Straight through and in with no forms and no questions. But they have stopped the flights now from yesterday. I was booked on from CT last night and they cancelled yesterday morning.
 
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Geoff.D said:
Rinse and repeat by a system that actually learns nothing.
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What would you have done to relieve the burdens on health facilities and lower the death rates?

And what would you do moving forward with a view to both these points, which actually make the situation manageable as we have seen in proper countries.
 
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Cage Rattler said:
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1464306546985345039
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hmm..

/addstinfoilpowa

that dr. reiner feullmich guy sueing the governments of the world said a while ago its a pcr test pandemic.. i can get where that comes from, left over dead viral fragments would be a positive pcr test result.

he also said that something along the lines of variant(outbreaks?) can be "fabricated" by adjusting certain test sequences, i cant remember exactly and im not sure how that would work. well not him saying it, his witnesses did.
 
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Paulsie said:
Testdemics!!??

They obviously felt fine to get on a plane, had temperatures taken and had either been vaccinated or negative PCR test on departure.
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PCR can be false negative especially if the technique is poor or sample handled poorly. Also you can pick up the new variant after your test was taken, even at the airport of your home country. They want to mitigate that. Can't blame them, their responsibility is first and foremost to their own citizens and to EU as a whole as visitors to Netherlands can go anywhere in the Schengen Zone and pass the virus on.
 
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EvoX said:
Is this real? How did 61 find their way on a plane to Netherlands while our numbers have been so low just last week?
Also don’t you need vaccination certificates prior to getting on a plane?
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Maybe the testing was done poorly or in sub standard labs. I see that many new labs popped up and offer C19 PCR. Maybe some of that is substandard. Maybe there is even corruption involved.
 
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EvoX said:
Is this real? How did 61 find their way on a plane to Netherlands while our numbers have been so low just last week?
Also don’t you need vaccination certificates prior to getting on a plane?
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Maybe the testing was done poorly or in sub standard labs. I see that many new labs popped up and offer C19 PCR. Maybe some of that is substandard. Maybe there is even corruption involved.
 
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access said:
....soooo then all the travel measures are pointless then
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Pointless if implemented poorly. If SA has poor quality testing in PRIVATE labs which may have been set up to make a profit, or there is trade in fake tests, then yes we will be banned.
 
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Mirai said:
Maybe the testing was done poorly or in sub standard labs. I see that many new labs popped up and offer C19 PCR. Maybe some of that is substandard. Maybe there is even corruption involved.
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It’s so difficult to comprehend all of this it makes your head hurt.
The line between truth and lie is almost non existent.
We don’t really know who’s lying.
 
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what was all that noise about the reliability of pcr tests for this purpose again... ?

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Pointless if implemented poorly. If SA has poor quality testing in PRIVATE labs which may have been set up to make a profit, or there is trade in fake tests, then yes we will be banned.
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point is this has been happening anyway, regardless of covid travel measures in place

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these dutch tests have been cycled too many times, amplifying left over fragments
 
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