International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

neoprema

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I was watching a game show - many episodes recorded September-Nov 2019 and how many of the contestants spoke of using their winnings for travel in 2020. Those poor people had no idea the end of the world as we knew it was coming. (to quote R.E.M)
 

Dave

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Show us the recent science of how we are going to get out of this via herd immunity or gtfo back to the corner in your dunce cap and stormtrooper suit

You are such a covimoron you want to argue over the words in a cartoon?

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And now you have nothing to cry about.

Well, at least until the WHO Covid Force come and take you away to a Covid concentration camp with Narrowband.
 

vigras rojara

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Oh so nothing to back up your bs narrative with. No suprise.
You zealots are the covidiots sitting on a POS belief system as it disintigrates in the face of reality for all to see while clapping your hands and singing lalala trying to ignore the reality that your position being scared shitless of a novel flu has turned you into the closest thing to naizis in the last 70 years.
Sho. Not only scared of jabs, but scared of commas too.

You seem particularly animated this evening, all ok?
 

semaphore

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Oh so nothing to back up your bs narrative with. No suprise.
You zealots are the covidiots sitting on a POS belief system as it disintigrates in the face of reality for all to see while clapping your hands and singing lalala trying to ignore the reality that your position being scared shitless of a novel flu has turned you into the closest thing to naizis in the last 70 years.
Can’t wait for you to be barcoded like cattle.
 

flytek

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Zealot belief system.
2 weeks to flatten the curve...lies
Vaccinate to stop the apread...lies
63% vaccinated to herd immunity...lies
One shot maybe two will be enough...lies
Lockdown/travel bans, vaccine mandates, vaccine passports to stop the spread...lies

The whole zealot belief system besides vaccinate before your first infection so your first actual infection has a smaller chance of you taking up a hospital bed and/or dying (Which they have yet to reach) has been a bunch of disintigrating BS claimed to be science. You need to learn to spot polliticised propaganda marsquerading as science and learn to spot the forest instead of just the trees that are put in front of you.
And yes the whole overreaction to covid with a very high survival rate is based on fear. The entire zealot position is based on mass panic and mass fear. Own your fears rather than trying to project them onto others.
The zealots have been going full retard since day one and still can't let go. A lot of them on this forum are little more than trolls.
 

Spizz

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Zealot belief system.
2 weeks to flatten the curve...lies
Vaccinate to stop the apread...lies
63% vaccinated to herd immunity...lies
One shot maybe two will be enough...lies
Lockdown/travel bans, vaccine mandates, vaccine passports to stop the spread...lies

The whole zealot belief system besides vaccinate before your first infection so your first actual infection has a smaller chance of you taking up a hospital bed and/or dying (Which they have yet to reach) has been a bunch of disintigrating BS claimed to be science. You need to learn to spot polliticised propaganda marsquerading as science and learn to spot the forest instead of just the trees that are put in front of you.
And yes the whole overreaction to covid with a very high survival rate is based on fear. The entire zealot position is based on mass panic and mass fear. Own your fears rather than trying to project them onto others.
The zealots have been going full retard since day one and still can't let go. A lot of them on this forum are little more than trolls.

Okay.

“politicised propaganda masquerading as science”

Why?
 

jbrunevader

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Omicron will have a lower infectivity than Delta; about a third or less of the infectivity.

One it appears to have arisen from vaccinated individuals, number 2 it so far has asserted mild symptoms, we will have to see how it works out in the unvaccinated individuals .

...it will give a unique PCR pattern, where from the PCR we can infer it is Omicron.... Second, inference it will not be sufficiently handled by the vaccines...

Many have advised, and I did as well, that it would be a blunder to try to do a mass vaccination in the middle of a global pandemic, because there's too much prevalent virus, so the virus is going to make mistakes when it replicates, in this case it may not have been an evolutionary advantageous mutation, ... with Delta it clearly was evolutionary advantageous, because it went from tiny % of the mutations to 100%, Delta was a huge evolutionary advantage and hence wiped of alpha, beta, gamma... this one may not. This one probably won't wipe out Delta.

It's is the most heavily mutated version of SARS-COVID-2; it has about 30 mutations in the spike protein... these mutations have jumped much forward compared to Delta... this virus should have a lower infectivity, a third or less of the infectivity of Delta.

"COVID-19" Virus is actually spread and carried in the nose, it's not a hand infection; hand sanitiser was a completely useless endeavour, and trying to wear masks on people who don't have the virus was useless...

...the fact that individuals who who are older are still susceptible, meaning that if they took the vaccine back in December / January / February / March... they basically now are uncovered, the vaccines ran out of their effect in 6 months, so those individuals need to know the vaccines have not been adjusted to cover the Delta variant, so they need to get into a mode of responding with the oral / nasal decontamination when they... had exposure to somebody, including when they are actively ill...

Everybody should know where their monoclonal antibody centres are... even if the symptoms are mild, get an infusion... this is proven to reduce hospitalisation....
 
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semaphore

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Zealot belief system.
2 weeks to flatten the curve...lies
Vaccinate to stop the apread...lies
63% vaccinated to herd immunity...lies
One shot maybe two will be enough...lies
Lockdown/travel bans, vaccine mandates, vaccine passports to stop the spread...lies

The whole zealot belief system besides vaccinate before your first infection so your first actual infection has a smaller chance of you taking up a hospital bed and/or dying (Which they have yet to reach) has been a bunch of disintigrating BS claimed to be science. You need to learn to spot polliticised propaganda marsquerading as science and learn to spot the forest instead of just the trees that are put in front of you.
And yes the whole overreaction to covid with a very high survival rate is based on fear. The entire zealot position is based on mass panic and mass fear. Own your fears rather than trying to project them onto others.
The zealots have been going full retard since day one and still can't let go. A lot of them on this forum are little more than trolls.
Don’t worry you’re going to have a tracking device implanted soon. We need to track the movements of the unvaccinated.
 

jbrunevader

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So masks do work? Interesting.

But the point of masks is that we were told to wear them to prevent us passing the virus on when we don’t know we have it.

This is also known.
Nope... you missed this.

"COVID-19" Virus is actually spread and carried in the nose, it's not a hand infection; hand sanitiser was a completely useless endeavour, and trying to wear masks on people who don't have the virus was useless...
...and that completely ignores the fact that the majority of the masks everyone has worn is 100% ineffective, as opposed to e.g. the N95. i.e. they were merely pacifiers for the panic mongers.

In fact, I’m not sure what the point of your post is.
Are you now the arbiter of posts.

Biggest takeaways are:
  • vaccinating during a global pandemic was the wrong thing to do.
  • forcing the healthy to wear masks was useless
  • hand sanitisers was a completely useless endeavour
  • previous vaccinations are now useless against both delta and omicron
  • omicron appears to have arisen from vaccinated individuals i.e. an example of why he and others advised against vaccinating during a global pandemic, similarly delta
  • oral / nasal decontamination is a way to avoid becoming infected
  • monoclonal antibody are still the best way to reduce hospitalisation for those at risk
 
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Paulsie

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Okay.

“politicised propaganda masquerading as science”

Why?
Because what they said would work is not working. So they're trying to save face by implementing further requirements. That's why we still hand sanitize everywhere we go, even though it's pointless (for covid anyways).

Edit: you do realize that if vaccines actually did prevent infection by 95% (which was the initial trial results), we would not be here?
 

Sinbad

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Nope... you missed this.


...and that completely ignores the fact that the majority of the masks everyone has worn is 100% ineffective, as opposed to e.g. the N95. i.e. they were merely pacifiers for the panic mongers.


Are you now the arbiter of posts.

Biggest takeaways are:
  • vaccinating during a global pandemic was the wrong thing to do.
  • forcing the healthy to wear masks was useless
  • hand sanitisers was a completely useless endeavour
  • previous vaccinations are now useless against both delta and omicron
  • omicron appears to have arisen from vaccinated individuals i.e. an example of why he and others advised against vaccinating during a global pandemic, similarly delta
  • oral / nasal decontamination is a way to avoid becoming infected
  • monoclonal antibody are still the best way to reduce hospitalisation for those at risk
What? No ivermectin/chloroquine cocktails and bleach injections?
 

C4Cat

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Nope... you missed this.
Aside from the fact that keeping your hands clean is basic hygiene that prevents many different illnesses, there is plethora of data indicating it's an effective preventative measure against Covid. As for mask wearing, you wear the mask in case you have covid and don't know it, to protect those around you. Maybe it's not needed but it's a small thing to err on the side of safety
 

Spizz

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Because what they said would work is not working. So they're trying to save face by implementing further requirements. That's why we still hand sanitize everywhere we go, even though it's pointless (for covid anyways).

Edit: you do realize that if vaccines actually did prevent infection by 95% (which was the initial trial results), we would not be here?

Oh I think we would. There is a significant percentage of people in countries such as South Africa who would never take a vaccine and see conspiracy at every turn no matter what the authorities say.
 
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