International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

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PsyWulf

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Oh, there is this polio comparison again..
Oh,more detraction from the rafters,colour me surprised /s
Other than a comparison against a Novel virus favouring Polio,feel free to discredit it if you can,won't hold my breath though,you haven't delivered anything of value to date
 

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Oh,more detraction from the rafters,colour me surprised /s
Other than a comparison against a Novel virus favouring Polio,feel free to discredit it if you can,won't hold my breath though,you haven't delivered anything of value to date
Polio and covid are completely different virus,
But I continue hearing this comparison I order to create this sense of fear and "need" for the 3,4 ,5 dose vaccine.

The stats that has been presented show opposite to what has been predicted.

It started

1. Lockdown to flatten the curve, then
2. Mandatory masks to curb infections, then
3. Vax to stop infections, the
4. Ok vax don't stop but it stops you from spreading,then
5. Ok vax don't stop the spread but you won't die
6. Ok you can still die but less likely
7. Ok vax runs out, you need 1 booster
8. Ok You need another booster
9. Ok You would need a yearly booster
10. Ok you would need a 6months booster.

Compared to polio, compared to HIV, compared to the flu....

I'm sure in the near future(18-48 months) we will get a proper vaccine to stop this, but right now it's all anybodys guess.

I'm not here to discredit anyone... that's the pro Vax psychopaths job.
 

PsyWulf

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Just in time for the new year
• Researchers say that it contains 46 mutations — even more than Omicron — which makes it more resistant to vaccines and infectious.
• Some 12 cases have been spotted so far near Marseille, with the first linked to travel to the African country Cameroon.
• Tests show the strain carries the N501Y mutation — first seen on the Alpha variant — that experts believe can make it more transmissible
• According to the scientists, it also carries the E484K mutation, which could mean that the IHU variant will be more resistant to vaccines.
• It is yet to be spotted in other countries or labelled a variant under investigation by the World Health Organization.
 

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Polio and covid are completely different virus,
But I continue hearing this comparison I order to create this sense of fear and "need" for the 3,4 ,5 dose vaccine.

The stats that has been presented show opposite to what has been predicted.

It started

1. Lockdown to flatten the curve, then
2. Mandatory masks to curb infections, then
3. Vax to stop infections, the
4. Ok vax don't stop but it stops you from spreading,then
5. Ok vax don't stop the spread but you won't die
6. Ok you can still die but less likely
7. Ok vax runs out, you need 1 booster
8. Ok You need another booster
9. Ok You would need a yearly booster
10. Ok you would need a 6months booster.

Compared to polio, compared to HIV, compared to the flu....

I'm sure in the near future(18-48 months) we will get a proper vaccine to stop this, but right now it's all anybodys guess.

I'm not here to discredit anyone... that's the pro Vax psychopaths job.
Mostly, yes. I don't recall it ever being claimed that being vaccinated meant no chance of dying. We already have proper vaccines. Your first line is the reason why a vaccine will work better against some viruses. They may find a way to make more effective ones, but sometimes more effective vaccines are found to carry much higher risks.
 

PsyWulf

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Polio and covid are completely different virus,
Yes,off to a good start,though irrelevant when talking vaccines?

But I continue hearing this comparison I order to create this sense of fear and "need" for the 3,4 ,5 dose vaccine.
No fear,it's not a novel concept though as claimed by your peers. "Need"? It helps,not sure how that's evading your sensibilities
Again,relevance when talking vaccines?

The stats that has been presented show opposite to what has been predicted.
Um,alright? Thought you as a human would grasp things are never 100% certain,predictions are optimistic based on available data,like "Omicron taking over and becoming the flu"
Did you personally ask a relevant virologist for a confidence %? Or you just listening to TV and shaking your head when the data changes?
And again,relevance when talking vaccines?

It started
As things do
1. Lockdown to flatten the curve, then
Lockdowns have been confirmed to help
And again,relevance when talking vaccines?

2. Mandatory masks to curb infections, then
Also shown to help
And again,relevance when talking vaccines?
3. Vax to stop infections, the
Vaccines again are proven to be beneficial,nobody claimed 100% prevention ever

4. Ok vax don't stop but it stops you from spreading,then
Vaccines again are proven to be beneficial,nobody claimed 100% prevention ever

5. Ok vax don't stop the spread but you won't die
Vaccines again are proven to be beneficial,nobody claimed 100% prevention ever
6. Ok you can still die but less likely
Vaccines again are proven to be beneficial,nobody claimed 100% prevention ever
7. Ok vax runs out, you need 1 booster
Polio relevance again,boosters are not a new thing
8. Ok You need another booster
Polio relevance again,boosters are not a new thing
9. Ok You would need a yearly booster
Polio relevance again,boosters are not a new thing

10. Ok you would need a 6months booster.
Polio relevance again,boosters are not a new thing

Compared to polio, compared to HIV, compared to the flu....
Compared to non-novel viruses,each has similarities warranting comparisons,seems you don't understand how comparisons work?
And again,relevance when talking vaccines?

I'm sure in the near future(18-48 months) we will get a proper vaccine to stop this, but right now it's all anybodys guess.
Doesn't know what a "proper" vaccine is,but predicts one would be made at some point. Pick 3 of the current vaccines people receive to exhibit this "proper" vaccine,and your criteria to determine this,let's see if it passes mustard

I'm not here to discredit anyone... that's the pro Vax psychopaths job.
You discredited yourself pretty well,no need for anybody else to do it

So let's summarize,you don't know how vaccines work,and it shows,but somehow comparing to polio is the problem? :laugh: hilarious
 

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70%? With our low vaccination rate. Must be a miracle :whistling:

Sounds like something SoldierBoy would agree with. More likely its just massive spread early on in townships, taxis etc. Combined with relatively high levels of urban vaccination I HOPE this might mean we're in a good position to overcome COVID.
 
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Although in truth organisations like the CDC have been recommending all those things the whole time.

Wasn't at the front and centre of lockdown regulations though, was it? Keep open McDs but close down gyms!

Also in SA remember we weren't even allowed to do anything outside of our homes besides shopping at retail shops or pharmacies for a couple of months in 2020.
 

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You really believe (or the OP anyway) that Big Bertha who loves having her 2 x Doughnuts for breakfast every day and McDonalds for lunch, is going to quit that ****, start exercising(!) and quit the smokes? Even moderately unhealthy people struggle to overcome these vices, which is why there are so many failed New Years resolutions round about now. I think its great advice but without the vaccines the aforementioned folks are gonna kick it.
 

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You really believe (or the OP anyway) that Big Bertha who loves having her 2 x Doughnuts for breakfast every day and McDonalds for lunch, is going to quit that ****, start exercising(!) and quit the smokes? Even moderately unhealthy people struggle to overcome these vices, which is why there are so many failed New Years resolutions round about now. I think its great advice but without the vaccines the aforementioned folks are gonna kick it.
My puppies and I have a wonderful time this time of year, terrifying the 'resolution' folks, watching them fall off the pavement etc, all kitted out in their high end brand new brand name running and cycling kits... only lasts around 2 weeks, then its back the the regulars :ROFL:
 
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