International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

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McSack

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One of whom is confirmed vaxxed and boosted. The other hasn't elaborated so we don't know.
Do you understand the diffs between being against the vax vs against the mandates?
 

PsyWulf

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One of whom is confirmed vaxxed and boosted. The other hasn't elaborated so we don't know.
Do you understand the diffs between being against the vax vs against the mandates?
Didn't see him commenting on it about antivaxxers,or are you replying to casper the ghost''s commentary?
Manufactured rage again
 

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Didn't see him commenting on it about antivaxxers,or are you replying to casper the ghost''s commentary?
Manufactured rage again
Not at all ....was just wondering about the point of the post.
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But hey ...if you view my post as "rage" please have at it. Don't know how you read that into it .
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Not at all ....was just wondering about the point of the post.
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But hey ...if you view my post as "rage" please have at it. Don't know how you read that into it .
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that account just trolls non stop. it basically just link drops all the time which is supposedly against forum guidelines? whatever....

it is then supported by others ridiculing any who questions or challenges it. the account which replied to you is especially fond of jeering.

dont waste your time reading into it....

also a textbook example of tds. friggin lol.
 

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You even trying @Cage Rattler ?
One can only laugh...
At the level of misinformation,and flatout stupidity of posts such as the above:laugh:
Here's a more accurate edit:

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Turns out masks help to stop Respiratory droplets,not the virus cells that cannot travel independently of a solution

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Sweet spot for masks is at 3micron which will stop - most dust,respiratory droplets and up
Smoke being 0.4 - 0.7

Good job catching @Paulsie out at least

*Edit - relevant spotted on twitter
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One of whom is confirmed vaxxed and boosted. The other hasn't elaborated so we don't know.
Do you understand the diffs between being against the vax vs against the mandates?
Going by his posts he definitely doesn't understand the difference.
 

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7 day avg on 20 Sept was 142. Today it is 160. I suppose you predicted this in your lab back then?

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Firstly, I'm impressed that you trawl through / take note and react to 4 months old posts.
Secondly, the UK might be better off due to BJ not wanting to risk his political capital, but that does not apply to the rest of Europe, not the US. Vaccinated are indeed not back to living normal.
 
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As Israel begins rolling out fourth COVID-19 vaccine doses and other nations push booster shots amid the spread of the highly contagious Omicron variant, some US health experts are questioning whether “forever-boosting” is an effective long-term strategy for dealing with the coronavirus.

Speaking with The New York Times, the scientists said periodically offering booster shots to entire populations does not appear viable, nor make sense scientifically.

“This doesn’t seem to be a sustainable long-term strategy, for sure,” Deepta Bhattacharya, an immunologist at the University of Arizona, told the newspaper.

Beyond the medical effectiveness, they cited likely public vaccination fatigue, noting that while around 73 percent of adults in the United States have received two vaccine shots, only a third so far have gotten a booster. In Israel, which first began administering booster shots over the summer, nearly 6 million people have received at least two doses, while far fewer — over 4.3 million — have gotten a third.

“It’s not unheard of to give vaccines periodically, but I think there are better ways than doing boosters every six months,” Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at Yale University, was quoted as saying, adding that there were other approaches to “get us out of this forever-boosting kind of a situation.”

Among the potential alternatives mentioned in the report were a vaccine specifically targetting the Omicron variant, a “pan-coronavirus vaccine” that targets parts of the virus that do not evolve; combining the current shots with nasal or oral vaccines that help better prevent infection by blocking the virus from entering the body; and waiting longer periods between administering doses.
 

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It is now clear for men <40, dose two and dose three of Pfizer have more myocarditis than sars-cov-2 infection, and this is true for dose one and dose two of Moderna.
Pfizer boosters (Dose three) have more myocarditis for men <40 than infection.
Myocarditis post infection is more common as you get older, in contrast with myocarditis post vaccination, which is more common as you are younger (reverse gradients)
 

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38.6 million vaccinated. Myocarditis - 1615 admitted of which 114 died (23 of which confirmed covid infected)

I hopefully got that right from a quick read of the study. So 114/38.6m died - isn't that more or less the general population instance for Myocarditis deaths?
 

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38.6 million vaccinated. Myocarditis - 1615 admitted of which 114 died (23 of which confirmed covid infected)

I hopefully got that right from a quick read of the study. So 114/38.6m died - isn't that more or less the general population instance for Myocarditis deaths?
Myocarditis risk was increased during 1-28 days following a third dose of BNT162b2 (IRR 2.02, 95%CI 1.40, 2.91). Associations were strongest in males younger than 40 years for all vaccine types with an additional 3 (95%CI 1, 5) and 12 (95% CI 1,17) events per million estimated in the 1-28 days following a first dose of BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively; 14 (95%CI 8, 17), 12 (95%CI 1, 7) and 101 (95%CI 95, 104) additional events following a second dose of ChAdOx1, BNT162b2 and mRNA-1273, respectively; and 13 (95%CI 7, 15) additional events following a third dose of BNT162b2, compared with 7 (95%CI 2, 11) additional events following COVID-19 infection. An association between COVID-19 infection and myocarditis was observed in all ages for both sexes but was substantially higher in those older than 40 years. These findings have important implications for public health and vaccination policy.
That should put to rest any discussions relating to getting myicarditis from the infection.
One does, but it seems far lower than from vaccines. A review of mandatory vaccinations fur all <40s should therefore be reviewed.
 

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bUt 99.997% Of PeOpLe SuRviVe CoViD - inaccurate number that antivaxxers love quoting saying vaccines are unnecessary
But 99.9997% of dosed people don't die from vaccination-induced myocarditis - **** VACCINES THE RISK IS TOO HIGH THEY ARE KILLING EVERYONE WE NEED TO REVIEW MANDATES AND USAGE

Don't be a ****ing imbecile @Paulsie @Geoff.D :ROFL:
 

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Interesting article on the pros and cons of widespread lateral-flow testing in the UK:
An analysis of the lateral flow kit used in Liverpool showed it only detected around half of people without symptoms who - on the same day - returned a positive PCR result. But those PCRs can pick up old genetic material from the virus left in the body even after the infectious period. Prof Petersen says that rapid lateral flow tests are far better at spotting the cases most likely to pass Covid on to someone else.

A peer-reviewed paper she co-authored in October found they were 80% effective at detecting any level of active Covid infection and even better at picking up the most infectious individuals.
Quite how well lateral flow kits perform against Omicron is still unclear. Experiments showed the main brands used in the UK did successfully detect all 15 of the samples infected with the new variant. But a small study published in the past week, and based on different kits used in the US, raised fresh concerns - finding that some Omicron cases could be infectious for several days before being detected by rapid tests using nasal swabs.
Health authorities budgeted £4.7bn this financial year for mass testing in England with the bulk of that going to suppliers of the kits - most of which are manufactured in China. Whether all that money is worth it is something epidemiologists are likely to be arguing about for many years. Untangling the effects of rapid testing from all the other Covid measures - from mask wearing to self-isolation - is extremely difficult and open to some interpretation.
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That should put to rest any discussions relating to getting myicarditis from the infection.
One does, but it seems far lower than from vaccines. A review of mandatory vaccinations fur all <40s should therefore be reviewed.

Don't forget to also check how many people die of pneumonia from Covid vs pneumonia from the vaccines.
 

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For those that haven't heard "Deltacron" with mutations from combined delta and omicron might have surfaced. Some claims of contamination,some not. We'll probably see more news of this if it turns out to be an actual variant
 

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For those that haven't heard "Deltacron" with mutations from combined delta and omicron might have surfaced. Some claims of contamination,some not. We'll probably see more news of this if it turns out to be an actual variant

Without examining the details, I have not heard of any combined versions of Covid, or any other type of coronavirus. It's just not the kind of virus that does that, and all lineages so far have developed totally independently.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.
 
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