International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

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Temujin

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PCR on 14 January: positive.
LFTs since: negative.
PCR on 16 January: negative (with a disclaimer that I may actually be infected)

So did/do I actually have COVID?

I’m either asymptomatic, the vaccines are doing their thing, or I’m not infected.

/confused
You're alive, nothing else matters /shrug
 

PsyWulf

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PCR on 14 January: positive.
LFTs since: negative.
PCR on 16 January: negative (with a disclaimer that I may actually be infected)

So did/do I actually have COVID?

I’m either asymptomatic, the vaccines are doing their thing, or I’m not infected.

/confused
As I have it:
The PCR test is testing for genetic material from the virus
ART checks for the protein surfaces living virus has

Why the mismatch?
PCR test can detect dead virus or parts thereof still lingering
ART should only be positive during the infectuous (active) stage

Especially for asymptomatic you might only detect it with PCR after the fact
 

The Voice

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As I have it:
The PCR test is testing for genetic material from the virus
ART checks for the protein surfaces living virus has

Why the mismatch?
PCR test can detect dead virus or parts thereof still lingering
ART should only be positive during the infectuous (active) stage

Especially for asymptomatic you might only detect it with PCR after the fact

Wife works in healthcare, so I’ve done loads of LFTs, all negative. But then out of the blue the PCR at the hospital comes back positive - cross-contamination maybe? Should I accept the subsequent negative PCR and LFTs as confirmation that I don’t have the virus in my system? I don’t want to be THAT guy who spreads it unnecessarily if I do, you know?
 

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Wife works in healthcare, so I’ve done loads of LFTs, all negative. But then out of the blue the PCR at the hospital comes back positive - cross-contamination maybe? Should I accept the subsequent negative PCR and LFTs as confirmation that I don’t have the virus in my system? I don’t want to be THAT guy who spreads it unnecessarily if I do, you know?
If it was me I'd look at it like this.
You may or may not have had various covid strains over the last 2 years whether asymptomatic or not.
Presuming you are vaccinated you are about as protected as you can be from death.
Since hyper infectious (and less deadly) omicron has nearly finished burning through our population and vaccinated or boosted all it could there is not much chance that your asymptomatic or ghost infection could actually harm anyone any more.
And those that it might harm have either taken vaccines and are largely protected from death or they have had a previous infection or two with similar outcome...its no longer your problem if you are asymptomatic.
You can't lock yourself at home for a week every time a test thinks it might have found a piece of a dead virus on you.
If you're sick and test positive then sure hide away but even then everyone elses health is THEIR responsibility...not yours. (further omicron is unlikely to kill anyone even if you are sick and go out)
Anyone who you come across who is unvaccinated and you gave them omicron should be happy that you have finally given them protection against severe new strains, or a 'booster', by infecting them with a not very deadly one.
Anyone who is unvaccinated, very old and/or very comorbid well they have taken bigger risks already and made their choice...not your problem.
 

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Wife works in healthcare, so I’ve done loads of LFTs, all negative. But then out of the blue the PCR at the hospital comes back positive - cross-contamination maybe? Should I accept the subsequent negative PCR and LFTs as confirmation that I don’t have the virus in my system? I don’t want to be THAT guy who spreads it unnecessarily if I do, you know?
Lfts are considered the infectuousnessgold-standard indicator,some countries recommend 10days after any positive in case though
 

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No worries, the torch lit mobsters can always move to Australia where the government policies better align with their religion....for now...
 
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PROF. PERRONNE AT LUXEMBOURG PARLIAMENT HEARING ON VACCINATING CHILDREN​



Dr. Christian Perronne is a Professor of Infectious and Tropical Diseases.

He had major responsibilities within several institutions: Pasteur Institute in Paris, French National Technical Advisory Group of Experts Immunisation (chairman).


Sadly it looks like his words fall on deaf ears .......
 

The Voice

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Uk ends Covid Restrictions.


This is going to end well. This is why **** like the flu still kills thousands every year because there’s no requirement to stay the **** at home if you’re sick. “Be careful and do the right thing”. We’ve been through 2 years of bullshit because the public STILL did what the **** they wanted to. And despite being exposed to the flu virus every year (usually) we still have no immunity to it, and a lot of people still require annual vaccination.

Can just see all those office “heroes” coming in with Delta because “it’s just a cold, I’m fine”.

 

pinball wizard

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This is going to end well. This is why **** like the flu still kills thousands every year because there’s no requirement to stay the **** at home if you’re sick. “Be careful and do the right thing”. We’ve been through 2 years of bullshit because the public STILL did what the **** they wanted to. And despite being exposed to the flu virus every year (usually) we still have no immunity to it, and a lot of people still require annual vaccination.

Can just see all those office “heroes” coming in with Delta because “it’s just a cold, I’m fine”.

Oh no. The sky is falling.
 

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Think some people were saying this 2 years ago...
The case numbers we see today would be in the same ballpark as case numbers from 2 years ago had there been no lockdowns back then, except a far higher mortality rate.

Do you really think the deaths and impacts on hospitals would have been utterly catastrophic in comparison to what happened, had that been the approach then?
 
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