International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

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TysonRoux

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'Let's Go Darwin!' Counter-protesters mock anti-vaxxers at DC 'Defeat the Mandates' rally


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U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) will hold a panel discussion, COVID 19: A Second Opinion. A group of world renowned doctors and medical experts will provide a different perspective on the global pandemic response, the current state of knowledge of early and hospital treatment, vaccine efficacy and safety, what went right, what went wrong, what should be done now, and what needs to be addressed long term
Medical experts and doctors

Four Pillars of Pandemic Response

Dr. Peter McCullough
Pillar 1: Limit the spread

Dr. Bret Weinstein
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya
Pillar 2: Early at Home Treatment

Dr. Ryan Cole
Dr. Harvey Risch
Dr. George Fareed
Dr. Pierre Kory
Dr. Richard Urso
Pillar 3: Hospital Treatment

Dr. Paul Marik
Dr. Aaron Kheriaty
Pillar 4: Vaccines

Dr. Robert Malone
Dr. David Wiseman
In addition to doctors and academicians, the Senator has also extended an invitation to the following federal health agency heads, the CEO’s of Pfizer and Moderna, and other individuals who have developed, promoted, and led the response to the pandemic over the last two years:

Dr. Rochelle P. Walensky, MD, MPH, Director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Dr. Janet Woodcock, MD, Acting Commissioner of the U.S. Food and Drug Administration
Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, MD, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and Chief Medical Advisor to the President
Dr. Lawrence A. Tabak, DDS, Ph.D., Acting Director of the National Institutes of Health
 

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U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) will hold a panel discussion

You really like the nutter ivermectards and covidiots, don't you, Paulsie?


A staunch ally of President Donald Trump, Johnson voted for Trump's Tax Cuts and Jobs Act in 2017, supported Trump's decision to end Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals(DACA), launched investigations into his political opponents and promoted false claims of fraud in relation to Trump's defeat in the 2020 presidential election. He has rejected the scientific consensus on climate change. During the COVID-19 pandemic, Johnson voted for the CARES Act, resisted stay at home orders, used his chairmanship of the Senate Homeland Security Committee to invite witnesses to push fringe theories about COVID-19, and spread misinformation about COVID-19 vaccinations.

Johnson used his position as chair of the Senate Homeland Security Committee to invite witnesses to hearings to promote fringe theories about COVID-19.[60] The witnesses promoted unproven drugs, made dubious claims about COVID-19 spread and pushed skepticism about vaccines.[61]Johnson called pulmonologist Pierre Kory[62] to testify about his experiences with Ivermectin, as well as a medical doctor who "has cast doubts on coronavirus vaccines and has pushed for the use of hydroxychloroquine"

In December 2021 he recommended mouthwash as a treatment for the coronavirus during a town hall meeting, immediately drawing criticism.

In May 2021, Johnson falsely claimed that thousands of deaths were connected to COVID vaccinations. He also falsely stated that there was a risk of death for people previously infected with COVID who received the vaccine.[68] YouTube suspended Johnson from posting videos on the platform for seven days over his remarks touting unproven treatments for COVID-19.[69]

After Twitter suspended Alex Berenson for making false claims about the pandemic and vaccines, Johnson praised him as "a courageous voice of reason" and encouraged people to continue reading Berenson's writing on another site.[70]

In an interview on Fox News Primetime, Johnson repeated a debunked[71][72] conspiracy theory that the FDA has not approved a COVID vaccine, claiming that the FDA approved the "Comirnaty version" and alleging that it is not available in the US.[73][74]
 

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U.S. Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) will hold a panel discussion, COVID 19: A Second Opinion. A group of world renowned doctors and medical experts will provide a different perspective on the global pandemic response, the current state of knowledge of early and hospital treatment, vaccine efficacy and safety, what went right, what went wrong, what should be done now, and what needs to be addressed long term

Those medical *cough* "experts and doctors" are a bunch of hacks who have been ousted by the scientific community for talking kak/lying about Covid/vaccines.

If you go see a cardiologist and want a second opinion, do you go to this guy?

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Those medical *cough* "experts and doctors" are a bunch of hacks who have been ousted by the scientific community for talking kak/lying about Covid/vaccines.

If you go see a cardiologist and want a second opinion, do you go to this guy?

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Let's just say that I would love to see a debate between Uncle Tony and someone with the Nobel Peace Prize.
Who do you think has a deeper knowledge of vaccines? My hack or your expert?
Is it the guy who does research or the one who funds research?
 

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Let's just say that I would love to see a debate between Uncle Tony and someone with the Nobel Peace Prize.
You want Fauci to debate Obama? Or what are you talking about?

Who do you think has a deeper knowledge of vaccines? My hack or your expert?
Is it the guy who does research or the one who funds research?
I'm assuming you're talking about Malone now?
Just because you know a lot about vaccines doesn't mean you can't talk kak about vaccines.
This guy got Covid, then got vaccinated, now he blames the vaccine for the fact that he has long-covid while going around saying everyone who gets vaccinated is being "hypnotized" by the illuminati and it's the next step to Nazi germany in the USA or some such twiddle.

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I mean seriously just listen to the conspiracy trash this guy actually believes. Totally clueless:
 
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A smear job, Paul? Do you understand what that is?

If you follow all the numbers in brackets eg [72] it leads to a verifiable source link. Here's a direct link to ALL the links:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Johnson_(Wisconsin_politician)#References

It isn't a smear job when it's true...
You mean those links at the bottom of the page? Most of which lead to opinion pieces by NYT, WAPO, WSJ, POLITICO and YouTube? Gotcha.

All I hear is quackery quack. Not a word about Fauci. I've often though - when Fauci speaks, he reminds me of someone. And then I remembered.
He reminds me of Donald. Not Trump. Rumsfeld.
 
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Those medical *cough* "experts and doctors" are a bunch of hacks who have been ousted by the scientific community for talking kak/lying about Covid/vaccines.

If you go see a cardiologist and want a second opinion, do you go to this guy?

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Of course,didn't you notice the broken heart? That's a heart specialist
 

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Covid 19: Chris Hipkins on new mask rules under Omicron - New Zealand Herald​

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Covid-19 Response Minister Chris Hipkins has defended the recommendation that people use disposable surgical or medical grade masks as opposed to N95s, saying 'it is an issue of practicality'.

The government today announced it is tightening rules for mask use under the 'red' traffic light setting.

Masks must now be worn in all food and drink venues, close-proximity businesses, events and gatherings.

The mask exception for eating, drinking and exercising still stands.

Hipkins told RNZ Checkpoint the most important point was that they were encouraging people to wear 'proper masks that covered their mouth and nose', as opposed to people just pulling their T-shirts over their face.

"The best masks for most people are going to be the medical mask that you can buy from the supermarket, you can buy them in packs of 50 from the supermarket, these are the ones we are recommending people use."

"You can still use a cloth covering, but there are some cloth coverings of course that are better than others."

"The paper face coverings are more effective than the fabric face coverings, there are some fabric face coverings that are very good, however, the ones that have several layers and then often have a filter, those are still good masks.
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There were a combination of factors that made recommending N95s difficult, including supply and cost, he said.

"They're more expensive and they've also got to be fit-tested, so if you don't have the right fit for your N95 mask, it's not necessarily a better mask than using one of the hospital grade masks you can buy from the supermarket."

However, research by American expert panel ACGIH pandemic task force states that 'N95 masks are far more effective than surgical or cloth masks, regardless of whether are effectively fitted or not'.

Hipkins said 'that needed to be put into the context of the current issues that were considered, "including practicality, supply and cost".'

"We've got to make sure that people can comply ... [and we know] with those medical masks, they're readily available from the supermarket and other places so people can actually use them."

While he said there was enough N95 mask supply for frontline workers, "if we were to extend that to the wider public, we do know that for example the supermarkets can source medical masks relatively easily, [but it] 'would be more difficult for them to be sourcing N95 masks'."

"There are international supply constraints around that. And also if you are looking at the proportion of benefit to risk, the most important thing we can do at the moment is encourage people to wear masks properly, whatever type of masks they are wearing."

Hipkins said he was also having 'discussions' with the Ministry of Education around supply of masks in school settings.

"We're also making sure we're working with community organisations, food banks and others to make sure that masks are available to those who might not otherwise be able to access them."

 
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