International COVID-19 Updates & Discussion 3

[Mirai]

Nope, you're damned if you're told to look and you don't. No other way around it. No ifs and buts.

For simpletons things are always simpler than they seem.

That's not meant at you.

But I sometimes wonder: these IT w-nkers, can't they get one piece of software correct without endless patches and updates. Well apparently not. I'm no IT expert hence I accept that there will be endless patches and hotfixes.
Unlike that field, my car's engine and brakes seem to work perfectly each and every time. Sure they may fail at some stage but it's not as if I have to service the car every few days.

 

[TysonRoux]

How many SA veermag grensvegters refused vaccines?

US army begins discharging soldiers who refuse Covid vaccine​

Army secretary says move is essential for combat readiness after vaccination made mandatory for service members in August 2021

US army begins discharging soldiers who refuse Covid vaccine

Army secretary says move is essential for combat readiness after vaccination made mandatory for service members in August 2021

www.theguardian.com

 

[PsyWulf]

But I sometimes wonder: these IT w-nkers, can't they get one piece of software correct without endless patches and updates. Well apparently not. I'm no IT expert hence I accept that there will be endless patches and hotfixes.
Unlike that field, my car's engine and brakes seem to work perfectly each and every time. Sure they may fail at some stage but it's not as if I have to service the car every few days.

You're doing it wrong
Just unplug it from electricity and it will never need a patch or antivirus

 

[flytek]

Seems my implication that @Geoff.D is a dumbass is problematic,it's fine though
@Geoff.D has not disproven the assertion that he is a dumbass though

Hope this is better @mods,i've reported a few posts for misinformation since you feel like working too

You go Karen!1!!!
Report that sh|t to the managers immediately!1@!!

 

[access]

That's not evidence.

it was used as evidence in a court to make a ruling.

there are more.

 

[Paulsie]

Look at your aunties anti-vax facebook page about how vaccines are magnetic nanobots that turn us into cyborgs to fight in the future storm wars?

Yup, people pointing out high PCR threshold testing limits in 2020 were dealt with in a similar way. Hence here we are. Well done to you and thanks for nothing!

 

[Paulsie]

But I sometimes wonder: these IT w-nkers, can't they get one piece of software correct without endless patches and updates. Well apparently not.

That's what happens when software people stop worrying about IT viruses and pretend to be experts with the real thing.

They think, just like in IT, that the only way to fight the virus is to wipe it out. They don't know any other way.

 

[Daveogg]

it was used as evidence in a court to make a ruling.

there are more.

How do you explain in the period between delta and Omicron test positivity rates went below 1%?

 

[Geoff.D]

How do you explain in the period between delta and Omicron test positivity rates went below 1%?

Very difficult to explain what happens in that situation.
One of the best references I found way back in July last year summarised RT-PCR testing as follows:

It has been demonstrated that RT-PCR testing is not reliable for three important use cases:
•RT-PCR alone can not reliably identify infected patients in a low prevalence social situation.
•RT-PCR alone can not reliably clear patients as being non-infected, if they have symptoms and come from a high prevalence social situation.
•RT-PCR alone can not reliably filter patients for subsequent medical studies such as antibody tests, symptom correlations studies, or new test candidates.

Yet governments and health officials used RT- PCR test results to enforce go, no-go policies and rules?
The whole point of the exercise is when RT -PCR tests are used as part of a diagnosis it might assist a health practitioner in treating patients appropriately but that is as far as it goes..

The positivity rate as measured assumes lots of things, one of which is that the RT-PCR test result is 100% accurate with no false positives or false negatives. There are papers that have been written trying to factor in the accuracy of an RT -PCR test into the calculation of positivity rates.

Here is the article that was written way back in April 2021 for those that have a stomach for some very heavy stats theory.

Here is the key recommendation made in the attached paper.
Did any government do anything to correct their incorrect use of RT PCR results? Of course not --- it would not have fed the hype to justify their BS rules and regulations.

In future clinical studies, general at-scale RT-PCR - RCP testing alone, and tests with similar characteristics, should not be used as the ground truth SARS-CoV-2 cases. It is imperative that a more reliable diagnos-tic method is used, before other correlations and effects are calculated. Restricting studies to patients with hospital admissions and thorough expert diagnosis, using dedicated labs with testing experts, is likely to yield more reliable results than the non-expert, mass-testing protocols that are being used in some geographical regions

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1489973514157367297

Governments: "Our measures definitely helped"

 

[tetrasect]

it was used as evidence in a court to make a ruling.

there are more.

Yeah, just like some nutcase's testimony was used "as evidence" in the US election trials. Presented as evidence in court does not equal actual evidence of something being true. That's why they lost the case.

 

[Geoff.D]

My contention is that none of the measures implemented had any effect whatsoever on the trajectory of any wave - the virus simply carried on and did what viruses do. All that the "measures" did was extend and delay the inevitable. With Omicron, most governments were caught with their pants down and did nothing, or tried too late to do anything. Which meant the virus swept through the population fast and quickly.

We were all better off in the end as a result.

 

[tetrasect]

Because it was a manufactured contrived pandemic.

What's the definition of a pandemic? How is it "manufactured" and "contrived"?

 

[Mirai]

You're doing it wrong
Just unplug it from electricity and it will never need a patch or antivirus

You mean if I never drive my car I won't have to service it on a weekly basis. OK. Got you.

 

[tetrasect]

my car's engine and brakes seem to work perfectly each and every time. Sure they may fail at some stage but it's not as if I have to service the car every few days.

But they don't improve every few days either

 

[Nod]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1489446839409463296

 

[Lupus]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1489973514157367297

Governments: "Our measures definitely helped"

It's when they stopped wearing masks honest

 

[The_Right_Honourable_Brit]

What's happening in Israel (genuine question) ? Weren't they the first country in the world to give the population a fourth shot?

 

[Paulsie]

A perfect fact check!!

Dr interviewed on MSNBC

“With the omicron variant, kids are either going to get the vaccine, or they’re likely to get a serious condition of omicron.”

This was later challenged as misinformation. Reuters picked it up. Dr's representative stated:

Dr. Emanuel misspoke and meant to say a ‘case of Omicron,’ not a ‘serious condition of Omicron

Reuters verdict regarding the original statement on TV? Missing context!!

Fact Check-Doctor’s comment over Omicron risk to children clarified following TV interview

A doctor’s remark regarding the risk to children from the Omicron coronavirus variant, made in a television interview, prompted accusations he was spreading misinformation. Representatives for the physician told Reuters the comments were a misunderstanding of his views.

www.reuters.com

 

[Paulsie]

What's happening in Israel (genuine question) ? Weren't they the first country in the world to give the population a fourth shot?

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Must be the remaining unvaccinated getting hammered by Omicron!