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The Voice

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No doubt there are falsies,but between the dozens i've had already with no false positives my anecdote balances yours out by a significant margin again
Factor in my family and 0 false positives out of ~40,2 actual positives pre-vax that were re-confirmed too

Mine was done at an A&E. Have to wonder how many false positives are recorded there because of cross contamination.
 

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You can spin it any which way you like. Vaccinated or not, you can end up in hospital.
Spot on correct. When the entire population is vaccinated (at whatever level you want to use as a reference, 1, jab, 2 jabs, 3, 4 ......200) those that STILL get Covid WILL end up in the hospital and hence 100% of the patients in the hospital for Covid will be marked down as vaccinated.


a very uncomfortable fact for the pro-vaxxers to accept and understand. This issue even has a name -- it is called the base rate fallacy.
 

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Spot on correct. When the entire population is vaccinated (at whatever level you want to use as a reference, 1, jab, 2 jabs, 3, 4 ......200) those that STILL get Covid WILL end up in the hospital and hence 100% of the patients in the hospital for Covid will be marked down as vaccinated.


a very uncomfortable fact for the pro-vaxxers to accept and understand. This issue even has a name -- it is called the base rate fallacy.

Not that it bothers us, because we already knew all along that the vaccine wasn’t introduced to stop the spread of COVID, but to reduce the number of serious, sometimes deadly, infections.
 

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Spot on correct. When the entire population is vaccinated (at whatever level you want to use as a reference, 1, jab, 2 jabs, 3, 4 ......200) those that STILL get Covid WILL end up in the hospital and hence 100% of the patients in the hospital for Covid will be marked down as vaccinated.


a very uncomfortable fact for the pro-vaxxers to accept and understand. This issue even has a name -- it is called the base rate fallacy.
No. Getting covid does not mean you WILL end up in hospital, especially if you're vaccinated.
 

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Spot on correct. When the entire population is vaccinated (at whatever level you want to use as a reference, 1, jab, 2 jabs, 3, 4 ......200) those that STILL get Covid WILL end up in the hospital and hence 100% of the patients in the hospital for Covid will be marked down as vaccinated.


a very uncomfortable fact for the pro-vaxxers to accept and understand. This issue even has a name -- it is called the base rate fallacy.
Right now I am actually feeling very sorry for the pro-vaxxers. They are fully vaccinated, until the next shot. If they don't take it they will be considered unvaccinated. No wonder they are so angry, not only do they have to worry now about still getting the virus, they also have to worry about the possible long-term side effects of the endless shots they might need in future. I think I will keep taking my chances without vaccination. I am healthy, no co-morbidities, quite fit for my age and my Vitamin D levels are high. At the end of the day though, it was their choice and it should be respected. A pity though they do not respect the choice of a person that chooses not to take the vaccine.
 

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Very easy to post one photo of an unvaccinated person that died just because he was in the news. To be fair, can you post photos of people that are still very much alive and are not vaccinated. You cannot, because you do not have the photos of billions of people in third world countries that do not have access to any vaccine and they are still very much alive. This is so dishonest.
 

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Much as I can't stand his form of posting, the link makes sense .... outspoken anti-vaxxer with the I won't get it attitude gets hit by covid - worth rolling eyes at.
 

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Everyone listed on this site was/is an anti-vaxxer activist who helped spread COVID-19 misinformation on social media. Share to stop others from making the same mistake. GET VACCINATED!

 

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Much as I can't stand his form of posting, the link makes sense .... outspoken anti-vaxxer with the I won't get it attitude gets hit by covid - worth rolling eyes at.
Would posts about the millions of antivaxxers who did not get it and did not die, or those who went around saying "get vaccinated so you don't die" and then dying themselves, be received in the same way? Not so much.

Love how certain provaxxers here are lapping it up though, while using these junk posts as a proof to strengthen their conviction.
 

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Another one bites the dust .....

Cirsten Weldon: Cause of Death for ‘Cirsten W’ of Florida​


Cirsten Weldon is an author, former model and “QAnon promoter” based in Florida who has died, a friend revealed on social media.

she once said Fauci “needs to be hung from a rope” and claimed the vaccine killed people, recording “herself yelling at people standing in line to receive vaccines.”

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Cirsten Weldon, 61, Sarasota, FL, "Influencer", Q-tuber, anti-vaxx, dead from COVID.​



 

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Right now I am actually feeling very sorry for the pro-vaxxers. They are fully vaccinated, until the next shot. If they don't take it they will be considered unvaccinated. No wonder they are so angry, not only do they have to worry now about still getting the virus, they also have to worry about the possible long-term side effects of the endless shots they might need in future. I think I will keep taking my chances without vaccination. I am healthy, no co-morbidities, quite fit for my age and my Vitamin D levels are high. At the end of the day though, it was their choice and it should be respected. A pity though they do not respect the choice of a person that chooses not to take the vaccine.


To put your mind at rest, please don’t worry for me. There is not even a minuscule thought of long term side affects from the vaccines in my head. Quite the contrary actually, the vaccines give me comfort in knowing that if and when I catch coronavirus I have an increased chance of escaping serious illness and death.

But you do you. We’ve already seen quite a thinning of the gene pool with people who convince themselves of the type of nonsense that you posted above, so hopefully your contrived logic works out for you. Good luck.
 

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To put your mind at rest, please don’t worry for me. There is not even a minuscule thought of long term side affects from the vaccines in my head. Quite the contrary actually, the vaccines give me comfort in knowing that if and when I catch coronavirus I have an increased chance of escaping serious illness and death.

But you do you. We’ve already seen quite a thinning of the gene pool with people who convince themselves of the type of nonsense that you posted above, so hopefully your contrived logic works out for you. Good luck.
Aaah gene pool. You mean the only gene pool that is going to survive are those in western countries where the majority are vaccinated and the virus is spiralling out of control? . So I guess you mean the gene pool in Africa and other third world countries that have not been vaccinated but already have herd immunity is not going to survive Typical western arrogance. One more time they think that they will be the saviour of Africa. As far as I can see Africa has done better than any white country, and they did it without the vaccines. You take your superior gene pool and stick it up your @ss.
 

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Aaah gene pool. You mean the only gene pool that is going to survive are those in western countries where the majority are vaccinated and the virus is spiralling out of control? . So I guess you mean the gene pool in Africa and other third world countries that have not been vaccinated but already have herd immunity is not going to survive Typical western arrogance. One more time they think that they will be the saviour of Africa. As far as I can see Africa has done better than any white country, and they did it without the vaccines. You take your superior gene pool and stick it up your @ss.

Unfortunately you can't see very far.

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Aaah gene pool. You mean the only gene pool that is going to survive are those in western countries where the majority are vaccinated and the virus is spiralling out of control? . So I guess you mean the gene pool in Africa and other third world countries that have not been vaccinated but already have herd immunity is not going to survive Typical western arrogance. One more time they think that they will be the saviour of Africa. As far as I can see Africa has done better than any white country, and they did it without the vaccines. You take your superior gene pool and stick it up your @ss.
Wow, racist AND stupid, but I suppose those two generally go together.
 

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Wow, racist AND stupid, but I suppose those two generally go together.
Racist to whom? Defending Africa's herd immunity makes me a racist? Go read again and comprehend. I admire their approach as opposed to the arrogance of westerners forcing their vaccine on people. All the filth and disaster originate in the West. Switch on your Netflix and Hulu and you will see the filth. That is what they are exporting to Africa. The only pool I have a problem with are the ones that think they are superior to all others and that is western people. Thry have been given much, they became arrogant and now everything will be taken away from them.
 
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