Internet Access for a Block of flats

[yebocan]

Hey there guys,

At the last AGM of my Body Corp, a decision was made, to look into upgrading the building with a complete internet solution. Either, wireless as in WiFi coverage, or wire solution , with individual account access....- can anyone point me into the right direction? Thanks!

 

[JimM]

This UK site has got some pointers: http://wireless.navigator.co.uk/hotspots.htm

I'm sure that the kit mentioned can be purchased locally.

I'd suggest that you consult a lawyer to get any legal issues ironed out because one person will have legal liability for what is downloaded and uploaded.

 

[guest2013-1]

I would suggest a wired solution as to wireless, because wireless can be hacked very easily and it would be difficult to manage where the bandwidth goes to.

It also affords you the opportunity to have a high-speed network for all residents and you don't have to worry about speed/connection loss/etc etc

All of the wires connect to a router somewhere that's connected to a linux box running IPCop which, in turn, is connected to an ADSL line. You can then manage speed/proxy etc for each resident. So you can cache windows and antivirus updates on the local network as well as other common downloads. blablablabla

 

[guest2013-1]

I'd suggest that you consult a lawyer to get any legal issues ironed out because one person will have legal liability for what is downloaded and uploaded.

If that was true then all ISP's would be liable for what their users download. The AGM is basically an ISP now. No legal precedent (as far as I am aware) has been set for an ISP (or even an internet cafe for that matter) being sued and/or legally held accountable for what their users have done.

They ARE however, legally obligated to provide the user information when subpeona'd

 

[eddief1]

If you going to do this, you really should be looking at running fibre...i see that at the only long term option

 

[Franna]

We had shared Internet access in our complex (200 units) for R150/month uncapped, but was discontinued after 5 years due toe bandwidth abusers. Make sure your solution have a bandwidth monitoring device.

 

[guest2013-1]

We had shared Internet access in our complex (200 units) for R150/month uncapped, but was discontinued after 5 years due toe bandwidth abusers. Make sure your solution have a bandwidth monitoring device.

IPCop, as suggested

It affords you the opportunity to load balance too if I'm not mistaken, so you can get another ADSL line in if you want

If you going to do this, you really should be looking at running fibre...i see that at the only long term option

And the cost of running fibre? Who is going to cover that? You can get enough speed long term by installing good cables, CAT6. Then all you need to do is upgrade the router, or get a decent 1gbps one from the get go.

Internet speed will be 40mbps max. Each resident should then get 1gbps to the network. 1gbps > 40mbps and since it's a shared thing, their speed would be less than 40mbps

 

[eddief1]

IPCop, as suggested

It affords you the opportunity to load balance too if I'm not mistaken, so you can get another ADSL line in if you want



And the cost of running fibre? Who is going to cover that? You can get enough speed long term by installing good cables, CAT6. Then all you need to do is upgrade the router, or get a decent 1gbps one from the get go.

Internet speed will be 40mbps max. Each resident should then get 1gbps to the network. 1gbps > 40mbps and since it's a shared thing, their speed would be less than 40mbps

It depends on the size of the building and number of users, CAT6 can be more expensive than fiber. Things like duct size also play a role, fiber is physically smaller and easier to route through existing ducts were space is at a premium.

 

[Fulcrum29]

If you want a secure and beneficial solution in the long term, you should really look into gated services. Contact Internet Solutions and hear what they have to say.

http://www.gatedservices.co.za/

Unfortunately I cannot give any advice on the topic of gated services. Many other providers also… I think Mweb is now outsourcing this solution to Vodacom, not sure…

Remember you do not have to take all services, focus on internet, telephony and security should it be necessary. It is really not expensive should everybody participate in the services.

 

[eddief1]

If you want a secure and beneficial solution in the long term, you should really look into gated services. Contact Internet Solutions and hear what they have to say.

http://www.gatedservices.co.za/

Unfortunately I cannot give any advice on the topic of gated services. Many other providers also… I think Mweb is now outsourcing this solution to Vodacom, not sure…

Remember you do not have to take all services, focus on internet, telephony and security should it be necessary. It is really not expensive should everybody participate in the services.

I agree, do it properly, do it once...sharing a ADSL line between tenants is hardly a long term solution.

 

[guest2013-1]

I agree, do it properly, do it once...sharing a ADSL line between tenants is hardly a long term solution.

Nope, but your entire building would be nicely wrapped and ready to go with any internet solution. So even though ADSL might be a short-term solution (or long-term, depending on usage and what they need), they can easily UPGRADE to diginet if they have to

A gated solution would stick them with 1 provider for life. And I just read an explanation on that website about what "cap" is, so I immediately closed the web page.

Hell, 1 ADSL line not enough? Get 4, bond/balance the ****, Bob's your uncle

 

[Driftking]

I intend doing the same for my tanents

We had shared Internet access in our complex (200 units) for R150/month uncapped, but was discontinued after 5 years due toe bandwidth abusers. Make sure your solution have a bandwidth monitoring device.

How much bandwidth was each member allocated and how much were you paying for the entire bandwidth per month