Internet radio in SA: Shocking claims from IT analyst

Do you think the listenership statistics from Ballz and 2Oceansvibe are accurate?

  • Yes

    Votes: 6 3.3%

  • No

    Votes: 175 96.7%
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Internet radio in SA: Shocking claims from IT analyst

Shaun Dewberry slates the listener statistics provided by local online radio stations in SA, saying that they are “complete fabrications, utter nonsense, lies, even”

[video=youtube;lB9vQsdSNYk]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lB9vQsdSNYk[/video]
 
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I'd be very surprised if they had 50k listeners, those stats do sound rather over-inflated
 
Let's look at it this way. The stream is 64kbps right? 64kbps x 60000 = 3840000kbps = 480MB/s (megaBYTE per second). There is not a single server in this world that can push that much. So take these lying bastards to court! They're fooling their advertisers and that's pure fraud.
 
www.tunein.com has local and every radio station around the world there. I wonder if the local stations get counted if you are on that site?
 
Even if you take into account that 2-3 people could be listening to a single connection-stream, it still does not get to the 20k+ numbers they proclaim.

Darren Scott's is a shining example of how the mighty can fall.
 
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Somehow I really doubt two SA internet ratio stations (which I have never heard of) would have 5-10x the listeners of the most popular stations on the web.
 
BLIXEMPIE said:
Let's look at it this way. The stream is 64kbps right? 64kbps x 60000 = 3840000kbps = 480MB/s (megaBYTE per second). There is not a single server in this world that can push that much. So take these lying bastards to court! They're fooling their advertisers and that's pure fraud.
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No server needs to do this. You can unload the work to the routers using multicasting and the like. I'm not sure whether they do that here (it would be stupid not to) but that's how any large video surveillance system gets configured.

They have options so it's not quite as simple as that.
 
Wow. Darren Scott is quite an idiot. But he def knows how to use his linguistic arts to subtley drag, disparage and discredit the guy at every available instance..... like a wounded animal. Where there is smoke theres fire and looking at all the stats a certain amount of logic comes into play. Why was he so defensive? So he calls the guy on air to give the appearance hes got nothing to hide but ends up with just more questions and threats. "Ballz radio....we talk Ballz" lol. Nice govermental response Darren...you should be stuck in the Cabinet somewhere. My 2 cents.
 
"At one stage I went so far as to decrypt the iPhone application for one of these stations to confirm it too pointed to the same Shoutcast-based IP address for that station."

o_O ... you could have just used wireshark. ; )
 
roygbiv said:
@uchoose interesting hadn't thought of that. I to use www.tunein.com to listen to Ballz and other stations
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uchoose said:
www.tunein.com has local and every radio station around the world there. I wonder if the local stations get counted if you are on that site?
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Just took a quick look with Wireshark and the TuneIn web tuner and the traffic is all still going to the same Shoutcast server (85.25.164.33:80).

Don't have time to investigate what the app does right now, but based on the feedback we received while investigating this article it seems unlikely that the TuneIn app would connect to a different server than the web tuner.
 
stricken said:
"At one stage I went so far as to decrypt the iPhone application for one of these stations to confirm it too pointed to the same Shoutcast-based IP address for that station."

o_O ... you could have just used wireshark. ; )
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On an iPhone?
 
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