Introducing the electric truck that is making deliveries in Gauteng

[DA-LION-619]

Excellent,about time we reduce components that can break on heavy vehicles,not to mention the huge pollution savings if these vehicles eventually can be run purely on solar generation.

200KM range in Gauteng? That’s nothing.

What pollution savings? That’s a non-issue.
Energy density is the problem, the more batteries you have, the heavier the truck.

They just need to make an electric truck use the N3 and the idea would be scrapped.

 

[Kieppie]

200KM range in Gauteng? That’s nothing.

What pollution savings? That’s a non-issue.
Energy density is the problem, the more batteries you have, the heavier the truck.

They just need to make an electric truck use the N3 and the idea would be scrapped.

Or go old school and build a kinda tram line segment on some highway sections for charging while driving. Less battery capacity needed on these vehicles

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Introducing the electric truck that is making deliveries in Gauteng

One of South Africa's first electric trucks — the JAC N55 EV — has been making deliveries in Gauteng for two months, thanks to a partnership with solar and electric company Aeversa.

Burning coal and diesel for the electric trucks is better?

oh wait the renewal fashion to the rescue: ''It also offers solar installations which can be integrated with the chargers.''

 

[Herr der Verboten]

Battery tax

Sabc license soon to be amended

 

[DA-LION-619]

Or go old school and build a kinda tram line segment on some highway sections for charging while driving. Less battery capacity needed on these vehicles

No Elon, you’re creating a solution to a problem you invented.
The issue is still energy density, more batteries mean less cargo.

We an idea of how long an oil spill takes to clear up, now imagine an electric truck on fire.

 

[Kieppie]

No Elon, you’re creating a solution to a problem you invented.
The issue is still energy density, more batteries mean less cargo.

We an idea of how long an oil spill takes to clear up, now imagine an electric truck on fire.

Oh no I'd much prefer hydrogen cars if we have to pick "green" tech. For some reason people don't like driving possible bombs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Exactly why I suggested a way of reducing battery capacity requirement. Electric is a nice idea in dense metro areas of first world countries, but I won't be taking it on a drive to the Karoo.

 

[Utterly Confused]

The Republic of the Western Cape will be up an running by the time electric cars take over, one can just move over there to escape the taxes.

Viva DA Viva.

 

[Fulcrum29]

It would make good city service trucks, these, 200KM per charge 2.5T, not bad,

https://jacen.jac.com.cn/models/n55/

 

[Fulcrum29]

Reading the article, these trucks will struggle where I stay,

The N55 has enough power to scale inclines of up to 16.7 degrees while carrying a load of 2.5-tonnes.

loaded bakkies like the H100 has that same problem when loaded to capacity. Nothing quite like crawling uphill in a +100km/h zone...

 

[TooFastTim]

Yip! we had three power stations, one in Cape Town, one in Salt River and one near Pinelands.

One in Salt River was Eskom. CCOCT had Steenbras pumped water as well as Pinelands and Roggebaai (although Roggebaai closed in the late '60's/early '70's long before Steenbras opened)

 

[Apogee]

Remember these?

 

[DA-LION-619]

Oh no I'd much prefer hydrogen cars if we have to pick "green" tech. For some reason people don't like driving possible bombs ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Exactly why I suggested a way of reducing battery capacity requirement. Electric is a nice idea in dense metro areas of first world countries, but I won't be taking it on a drive to the Karoo.

Reducing it to what exactly?
Take a look at the battery capacity.
Take a look at the battery weight.
Then take a look at the total gross weight of the truck.

 

[ForceFate]

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And we didn't have load-shedding then either. Our local municipality even had its own power station.

My 'hood wouldn't have been able to run those. We had no electricity.

 

[SauRoNZA]

Does it still have gears? I thought EVs were mostly auto?

Automatics still have gears too you know. It would still need a level to put it into the various required modes or some other mechanism to achieve the same.

But no, most EV's have one single gear and no need to change between them, but there are iterations that do still use gears for various reasons.

 

[TheChamp]

Reading the article, these trucks will struggle where I stay,



loaded bakkies like the H100 has that same problem when loaded to capacity. Nothing quite like crawling uphill in a +100km/h zone...

I have never seen a more useless bakkie like the H100, they seem to struggle everywhere, what engine do they have?

 

[Magnum]

Does it still have gears? I thought EVs were mostly auto?

You need a ridiculus amount of torque to pull away. add 2.5 tons of cargo and uphill. try and pull away in 2nd in a normal car. you can feel the difference. you slip the Clutch. use Flywheel torque and eventually you start picking up speed. Electric motors are no different.

You have almost full torque over the full RPM range of the motor. Does not mean you have enough.

I have two 8KW DC motors. I still need a reduction gearbox before I can use them.

 

[Arthur]

Unlike ICEs, electric motors produce maximum torque at 0 r/min.

 

[Kieppie]

Reducing it to what exactly?
Take a look at the battery capacity.
Take a look at the battery weight.
Then take a look at the total gross weight of the truck.

I think we're talking past each other. I am well aware of the problems with current EV

For their 200km rating they have :

Normal layout - battery accounts for 23.3% of the weight
Curb Weight（Kg）- 3150
Weight of the battery（kg）- 728

Hypothetical 100km range charge on the go - battery accounts for 13.1% of the weight (lets ignore the fact that you'll actually have more range due to the reduced weight)
Curb Weight（Kg）- 2786
Weight of the battery（kg）- 364

Point was that yes the batteries in such vehicles make up a substantial part of the weight due to low energy density. The hypothetical solution was just to reduce the need for range and save on weight to boots loading capacity.

Anyway there was a study done in 2018 on the feasibility of long haul 40t trucks (800km)

The success of battery electric trucks in the EU is technically feasible, owing to improvements to battery density, the efficiency of electric power trains, and improvements to aerodynamics and tyre rolling resistance. This analysis was demonstrated with a simplified road load equation for a fleet average diesel ICE, a best in class diesel ICE, and three battery electrics trucks. Owing to the efficiency of electric motors, and in case of the Tesla Semi, drastically improved aerodynamic drag, the energy consumption was up to three times less than the diesel trucks.

Theoretical doesn't equal practical though. Especially in our country where distances are much higher and electrical supply is not reliable.

 

[Hemi300c]

Trucks delivering milk in Durban in the 70's and 80's were electric. So nothing new.

Eggzagly

 

[TooFastTim]

I have never seen a more useless bakkie like the H100, they seem to struggle everywhere, what engine do they have?